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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by V4F, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. TV
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    I have a 32-5W with a stroked Riley and still have mechanical brakes. I have had to lock em up many times.--TV
     
  2. J Man
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    I am still collecting parts for my project. I want to run A wires on juice brakes, do I need adapters like running later wires? Are they the same adapters? Thanks
     
  3. J Man
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    What motor is that?
     
  4. KUZTOM
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    Glass ,WHAT THAT stuff :D,all steel,Its my sons project ,what were you doing when you were 13 ?
    The rear panal is from a English Ford 'Y' ,34.
     

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  5. KUZTOM
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    Thanks ,the dash is a $2.50 US ,Job from a swap meet, LH & RH sides from Morry Minor ,added some louvers in the middle, ;)
     

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  6. KUZTOM
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    ITS a non friendly HAMB engine (Toyota 2tg,from a 70's Celica):D.,Hey ,its what we had lying around,they are the first of the jap prformance engines,Dont worry its all guna be covered so no one can see it ,haha;)
    This project is my sons,he's proud of it.
     

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  7. Artiki
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    Hey Kuztom, I think that's a great project. Like what you've done there.
    Brits have been using the Toyota twin cam for years.
    Your son will have a lot of fun in that. Well done to him.
     
  8. KUZTOM
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    Artiki, cheers.Yeah,guys like you understand ,I totally understand the strong views of some guys on the Hamb,thats cool.This project is my sons,we wanted to prove to people that you can build a rod with stuff that is lying around, I could go on for ever about how and what we done here.This whole things owes Bill about $2500 Kiwi dollars.(1250us @)Its funny he's 13 ,what engines were some off these guys mucking around on at 13.;):D
     
  9. KUZTOM
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    GOT Juice brakes & lever shocks .......does this help:D......and VW combi box .
     

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  10. KUZTOM
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    Some ol banger stuff for sale .........
     

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  11. SUHRsc
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    your stuff?
     
  12. Dirtynails
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    The larger Laycock units fitted to Jags shoukld be tough enough wouldn't they?. My brother had a 322 Buick in an Allard with a Jag moss Box and laycock OD unit. I think the shitty old moss box was more of a problem cuaser than the OD. :)
     
  13. Dirtynails
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    I've seen pics on NZHRM of your young bloke working on his Rod,better than wasting away in front a X box! .A year or so and he will have his license or have they changed that now in NZ?
    BTW at 13 I was fooling with model A's ,a 1918 Armstrong Siddeley and a few villiers powered trolleys. :D:D:D
     
  14. From what I read on the Model A and B Cast Iron Front Brake Drums web site the late 31 brakes are cast like the 32/34's only difference being the 32/34's are 12 inch and the 31's are 11 inches in dia.
     
  15. Looking that way too t'me? Although there are the Rocky Mountain A drums - cast with ventilating holes at 11" - but they look more like '32-34.

    Talking of which - I'm putting a B front end in the Fordor right now. The whole axle is a rebuilt B from hub to hub, fitted with an A wishbone. Any thoughts on kingpins/brake cross shafts? The B ones aim to the centre of the car. Do I need to swap the kingpins and brake shafts for A ones?
     
  16. Ah - those are the ones I know of as "Rocky Mountain" drums!
     
  17. J Man
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    Cool looking engine, I would not use one but still cool looking.
     
  18. loogy
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    Hey, that's excellent information, thanks! Looking back at the photo, you can see the distance from the spoke to the outer drum is shorter than the '32-'34 drum (as shown and described in the linked page). Learn something new every day! I love it!

    Mind if I ask what website that is from?
     
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  19. V4F
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    ok , on my brakes .... the front are "rocky mountain" "A" drums . thats why they look wierd . the rest is stock . the rocky mountain drums were sloted so as to kool on down hills . they are also cast . i have cast drums on the rear also , but not rocky mountain style . i hope i helped out there ....................... steve
     
  20. loogy
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    Wow, your boy has a really neat project going on. And at 13? Cool! The motor is really cool! I like oddball engines!
     
  21. Crazydaddyo
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    Very nice, much more "traditional" then fiberglass. The perfect project for a teen.
    When I was 13 I was doing this:

    My first car

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  22. I think some of the later 31 brakes had the "spoke" type cast drums that looked the same as 32 34 but were 11"

    As to Ted's Floaters they change the braking action to a "Single Leading Shoe" type of brake. The floating action of the front shoe allows the front shoe to be pulled into the drum by the rotation of the drum when the brakes are applied. This can happen because the upper spring is not normally used. In fact some people have had their brakes lock up because of improper installation.
     
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  23. I used the "A" operating shafts with the"32" kingpins and spring perches. Seem to work.
     
  24. PM me and I will send you the name of a place that has some parts for "32" to "36" mechanicals.
     
  25. Chris, here is the main page for the web site. There is a ton of info here. Model A & B Ford Deuce Garage
     
  26. Cheers Bill - now to find some decent ones amongst the pile...
     
  27. Yes, thanks Bill. I am going to run a undropped 32 axle in the roadster and I already collected the 32-34 perch pins, and was just starting to try to figure out what else it takes to make the brakes work!

    Another dumb question...will A brakes work with 32-34 spindles??
     
  28. Chris - we're obviously on the same page of the book...
    Whilst we're hitting the bandwidth on this site
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/frontbrakeactuators.htm

    Could be wrong, but it seems I'll need A spindles as well after all as the kingpin 'cups' point forward? Also - the '32-34 levers hang down too?
     
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  29. SUHRsc
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    why not run 32 or newer on the front, like the AMOCAT roadster?
     
  30. Elrod
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