Hot Rods mark viii seats in 64 t-bird

I had a stoch 7 year ago, my speeling is bad i cant find speeh cheek my spech is bad also. this the first time im on hamb in 7 years
wiring probum, i dount how to wire them, i cound use a diagame power wires call me
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dennis

 

Suggest you try www.markviii.org for help on this.

On edit: If you don't find help over there, then PM me, and I* may be able to help.

 

I lost my p***word for them. the addimister wont anser me. i had a strock, with is PM

 

If you put your mouse on your avatar it will open up a ****on that will let you start a conversation with that person.



Like in the picture above. Click on start a conversation and then you can PM (private message) between each other. IF you have problems with that, I am sending you a PM now with my phone number and I will try and help you as much as I can. You can see that at the top of the page were the mail icon is.

Jason

 

Here is a link to where you can buy a MarkIII factory wiring diagram, and that will definitely have the seat wiring in it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LINCOLN-1970-Continental-Mark-III-Wiring-Diagram-Manual-70-/290649844717

 

Welcome back to the HAMB, and good luck with your health and your project.

 

Dennis's first post says MKviii. Kinda doubt a MKIII wiring is same.I think I can get hold of a wiring diagram when I get a chance. At one time I owned 3 MKviii and somewhere I think I have the manuals. Just have to find time which is tough now this close to Christmas. I also know the admin over there and have his phone number.But like everybody else, he's going to be hard to catch right now with holidays coming up. What is/was your username on mkviii.org?
Dennis I'll call you tonight at the number in your first post.

 

Bump

I admire your gumption.

 

Me too. Recovering from a brain injury is a slow process, but it's made easier by the encouragement of your peers, and by pursuing your interests, despite the depression that so often accompanies brain injury. I know that process all too well, and I wish you a smooth recovery, sho1off.

Sadly, I have no help to offer with your wiring problem, but at least I can bump your thread!

 

yes....there are helpers on here......bump up.....

 

i can read but spelling not to good it takes so long to post a question to get the right words out. thank to guys that are helping me
its not fun to go to car show with out a car
thanks

 

I called Dennis Last night and spoke with him. I have to applaud the man for getting back in the saddle and wrenching on cars again. My brother had a m***ive stroke almost 12 years ago. So I have seen first hand how hard it can be to get back into the things that were once so easy for you. Good for you Dennis!

After talking with him He is trying to find wiring diagrams for a 96 Lincoln mark VIII power seats. I have not had a chance to look through my service manuals to see if I have one for that year and model from when I was still Turning wrenches for a living.

It may be simple for us to just go to google and search for it but Dennis has a hard time typing and that complicates it for him. I will be searching for diagrams for him, but can't really while i'm at work. If any one out there feels like lending a hand or if they have a manual with diagrams lets try and help Dennis out so he can get his T Bird back on the road.
Jason

 

I'm fairly sure I have an EVTM manual and shop manual for a '94 MKVIII somewhere in a box, as I drove a MKVIII for almost 20 years and did my own maintenance and repairs on it.
I also called Dennis last night and discussed this with him. I am gonna be hard pressed to find the time to dig thru those old boxes of books and magazines till after the first of year. Told Dennis that when I did get a chance to find them I would either photocopy applicable pages and mail to him, or mail him the manuals for his use till he gets the seats working and he can at that time return them.
Hopefully between Jason and myself we can get Dennis some help soon.

 

Everything goes thru the memory module, you'll need to have that and it still might not work. Not sure where the module is.

You see in the last picture, there's a section or box marked (solid state) that's between the motors and switches? That's the problem.
To get them to work, you may need to build a board of relays to control the motors and use the switches to trigger the relays.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jeez, that will take an electrical genius to build and work! Do you suppose that all that folderol could be byp***ed and operate the seats by manually flipping switches without out going thru the memory module?
And I believe this to be an on topic subject since the seats are going into a '58 T-bird.
I have a friend who is an Edsel nut and he has one in which he installed MKVIII seats, I'll try to contact him and ask if he found a way around that memory module.

 

The factory switches are cheesy and can't handle the load- gotta have a relay. but the switches are capable of getting providing momentary ground for those relays. In that solid state box are the micro relays on the circuit board, they need subs***uted.

You could subs***ute heavy duty switches but that gets ugly and bulky, where relays hide the bulkiness anywhere.

It's not hard, no one step is difficult- but it's like 1,000 easy steps to byp*** a seat control module.

 

After my grandpa had his first stroke I went to see him in the hospital. He asked if I brought him an engine. "They won't let me do anything!"
Keep at it...wish I could be of some help.

 

have the wiring that goes to the seat p***ener
10 wires on p*** side
2 large black
2 large black and white
small
orane
blue and red
black and brown
white and purpal
gary and red
driver seat is more

 

Second picture is right seat, p***enger seat

 

no picture

 

From earlier post.
Second pic.
Right seat or p***enger seat.

 

looks i got power black and blackandwhite
right????

 

you guys rock....thanks for going above and beyond on this one !

 

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It's best if you can Figure out which connector plug you're working from or that was cut off.
Having the seat without the schematic is confusing, having the schematic without the seat is confusing, having both equals the best chance on figuring it out.

Here there are two grounds shown both solid black, one comes from the right seat control switch, the other comes from connector C302M then C302F then the right seat memory module. Tracing the wires back to their source will give lots of clues.



Here you see there's a powered black with white tracer wire, from the fuse box to connector 306F to 306M to the right seat control switch on pin 1.

 

As I told Dennis on the phone Thur. evening, I got in touch with my friend with the Edesels and he has equipped not one, but two Edsels with the MKVIII power seats. He's an automtive machinist and owns a very successful shop here in town. Pretty sharp guy.
He did away with all memory and computer controls and wired direct thru the OEM switches to the motors and it's been OK for several years.
However he and I agree that some relays would help protect the switches. I suggested one online source might be Parts Express.com but some of yall may know of a better place to get them. I would think solid state relays would be great, but most anything of adequate ampacity should work and take the load off the switches.

 

dirves seat and wires
power on bk/w and bk to the lumbar only

 

on p*** seat power on bk bk/w
work on all of them