Technical ***May 2024 Banger Meet Thread - Remember your Mom this month***

Link to previous month: April 2024 Banger Meet

Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
May 26, 2024 4 Ever 4 Antique Nationals at Irwindale Raceway in SoCal.
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

WOW! Never been 1st before…!

 

I'm here

 

Tag

 

Wow, Daddyo, that looks like really high compression. Will you have to round over those sharp edges to prevent hot spots and pre-ignition? Cool shit, my man.

 

Was hoping to get the A running this weekend, NAPA let me down on delivering some key parts.

 

Checking in!

 

Anyone heading to Bakersfield for the swap meet on Saturday…? I’ll have a spread of Winfield and Buffalo goodies set up. Don’t recall the space number off hand, but know I’ll be near the back fence with all the other prewar crew

 

Antique Nationals

 

Checking in, Got the later gearset in the B box. It’ll be running soon.

 

I’ll be doing that on my current project. Do they fit the same as a later V8 case, or do you need to do the drop the cluster thingy?

 

It’s the first time I’ve ever taken a transmission apart. It really wasn’t too difficult but I learned quite a bit. From my understanding if you’re putting the gearset in the correct case, the front retainer bearing is pressed on the main shaft before assembly. On the B case the bearing needs to be pressed on with the input shaft in the case. I guess in some instances the B case needs to be clearanced for the cluster gear. My case didn’t require this.

 

I believe I have something similar?

 

More pics please and a little history!!!!!

 

A deal that was in the wind since forever finally came off (in part) for me last weekend.

I got 'paid' for a bunch of stuff in the form of a repop stromberg 81.

The dealer out here agreed to swap an unopened 97 for another 81.

My friend and I drive over to purchase one 81 and swap over the other one ...... and they only have one 81.

So my plan to set up my twin carb intake over our winter incurred an indefinite delay.

Oh well, I'll just have to sit back and read the banger threads until it arrives

 

Checking in.....

 

May the four be with you.
Warren

 

Still scratching my head on this one. This is a "one of these days" projects. The pistons have room for improvement.

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CDO

we should chat about this in the future
I may have some pistons that came from this setup

J

 

https://imsmuseum.org/fame_inductee/dale-drake/

 

Not sure why I bought it… but the price was right! Hell, I don’t even own a model A

Anyone have the drawings to machine this thing…?

 

Looks very interesting. I hope it can be identified. I haven’t seen much Bsnger speed equipment here in Illinois.

 

It’s a pretty rough casting and also has a touch of corrosion on one corner. There are also some small welds here and there to fill imperfections and voids. I believe the corrosion will be removed during machining and it should hold oil when done. Don’t know if I need to keep it, but would definitely like to finish the machine work either way…

 

Musta been made for a heck of a stroker with those pads on the sides for rod clearance!!

 

Hey Kevin, You can borrow mine.

 

What is that, an oil pan, please advise... ???

 

Wowza Mike! Yours has a muuuch nicer mold quality than mine. Interesting how several of the pan bolts were abandoned due to the rod clearance. Mine is not relieved under the front oil seal, just a big hunk of aluminum. At first I thought this was a crappy copy of someone’s work of art, but the sand mold would have required several cores and mold inserts that would not have been easy to fake on the fly. Someone spent a lot of time making the patterns for this thing… then never finished it

 

Kevin, I had a rough casting like yours and sold it to the late Bob Lee 35 years ago. I bought it from a fellow who had a lot of Gemsa stuff and he told me it was Gemsa. I wonder if that's the casting I sold Bob. The pan in my photo is an older Dan Price piece, who told me he cast it from the Rutherford patterns that he had. Note that there is no provision for an oil pump, you must run a pump off the front timing cover. The magneto cross drive cover in my picture is an Evans with a dry sump pump. You're welcome to borrow my pan if it will help with machining.

 

You just never can tell what cool parts turn up each month!
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