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Discussion in 'HA/GR' started by sgtlethargic, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. ... a start?

    >>> Model T rails (freshly picked)
    >>> Torquemeter Gage (right and left engines)
    >>> Crude mock-up
    >>> Paintshop sketch (older)

    I might try for style, function, then speed. All of this is on a maybe/eventually timetable, and a very limited budget.

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    Thanks for playing along,
    Kurt
     
  2. Toymaker
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    We all start somewhere :)
     
  3. 64 DODGE 440
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    Go for it!!:D

    Ours is based on T rails too.......started out along the same lines and making slow but steady(?) progress.

    Just remember, each time you do something on it you are one step closer and start the build.

    Most fun I've had hotrodding in many years, truly like building in the past.:cool:
     
  4. nexxussian
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    Looks neat from here.

    Any idea what the torque meter came out of? A twin yes, but twin what (as it only goes to 148 ish).
     
  5. I have no idea. I don't get the units either- I believe it's marked "lbs. sq. in."
     
  6. Rand Man
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    I only see one engine in your mockup. Save room for seconds.
     
  7. nexxussian
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    From the appearance of the gauge (and the Army Air Force tag on the back) it's likely in PSI and that would be read as Brake Mean Effective Pressure (BMEP).

    It's an earlier form of torque indication. Not sure how it worked (specifically) on the aplication that gauge came from, but here at work we still have some aircraft that have that.

    Ours use bevel gears in the gear reduction case, and utilise pistons driven by boosted engine oil pressure to keep the gears more or less centered (relative to each other). The pressure indication (in ours) is a reaing of how much oil pressure it's taking to keep the gears together (as the gears are beveled they try to drive each other apart, proportionetly harder the more torque you put throuhg them).
     
  8. bobw
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    I just picked up my HA/GR frame too.:D
     
  9. Joe Hamby
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    I like your start, now from what I have seen on some other posts. Be careful and don't trip over that poodle. Nice frame and poodle. Joe
     
  10. 64 DODGE 440
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    Looks like ours when we brought it home, but we didn't have any of that white stuff on the ground.:D

    Looks like you have a good start there. What are you looking to power it with?
     
  11. ThingyM
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    Isn't great,, You can take frame rails that were manufactured 85 years ago and use them again..I bet Henry never thought about that when they made them... Cool... (Pun intended)
     
  12. bobw
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    I've already horned in on sgtlethargic's thread. I need permission from the Sgt. to continue invading his space. I haven't wanted to start a thread til I'm 100% sure I'll build this thing. 'Bout 95% sure now.:D
     
  13. Cool. Is that a T, an A, or other? Are you keeping the crossmembers? I wouldn't mind starting with that, or better yet(?), a rolling ch***is.
     
  14. bobw
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    It's a T frame I got from a local young rodder. I also picked up roll bar material from the shorts rack at the steel yard. Half price that way. Got a 9" rear with 3.70 Auburn posi. The last decent junkyard in my area has a couple '38 Ford axles under a trailer frame. The spindles are not welded to the axles so they should be saveable. The same yard has a Dodge truck with a 225 slant 6 and a stick shift. I'd rather use an older style engine but finances won't permit it. After seeing what Ron Golden did to get his Jimmy 6 prepared, I decided on the Leaning Tower of Power.
    A friend is lending me his JD2 tubing bender so I'll be making everything myself.
    I have TOYMAKER'S rail as my computer screen background. That should tell you the basic look I'm after. Hope he doesn't mind.
    Unfortunately, to run in my area, I'll have to have a NHRA legal roll bar, etc. Gonna hide it and make it look as old timey as I can.
    I've been an avid reader of every word on every thread on the HA/GR location for the last 2 years. That will make this build go pretty good.
    Today, I packed up my '50 Chev truck project and will push it into the woods and tarp it, to make room in the garage for the start fo my HA/GR. I'm really excited about this!
    Once I get enough parts together to begin the build, I'll start a thread.
    Funny Joe should mention tripping over a Poodle. I haven't, but my wife has been tripped by "Willie" while jogging a couple times. Landed on her head. I guess I'll have to get her a jogging helmet.
     
  15. 64 DODGE 440
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    Hey Bob, looks like you have a pretty good idea of what you are building already.

    Looking forward to seeing it come together. Start your build thread, set that frame on some jack stands and give us some pictures.:D
     
  16. Toymaker
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    I'm honored bob' and glad to see another one being built. Rocky
     
  17. ThingyM
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    I was interested in the Torque Meter..So I asked my older brother who was an Air Force bird jockey.Of course he had a bunch of abreviations that I did not understand.. But the basics are, They are off of large radial engines. It is to tell you the torque at the prop shaft during take off and cruise, so you can set your props and fuel mixture. Just thought you might like to know....****..
     
  18. nexxussian
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    Yes, older design though (as it's mechanical, ours are electric).

    is there a dash (-) number on the data plate" usually preceded by lots of tiny almost illegible (when new) numbers then a dash with a larger box that the suffix would be stamped in (ie 1426-47A-B17 fwiw that's an airspeed indicator)?
     
  19. Sorry, I didn't see this before. Go ahead and post to this thread if you like.
     
  20. I was thinking if I should ask more about the torque meter- I'm glad you're interested, ThingyM. What type of engines/planes are you working with, ne**ussian? I was gonna guess turboprop bush planes. I'll take a closer look at the torque meter after I locate it again.

    Thanks,
    Kurt
     
  21. nexxussian
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    Prat & Whitney R 2800 radials. 2400 horsepower of water injected fury.:D

    We have the largest fleet of Douglas DC6's left on the continent (operational anyway), and the last 2 Curtiss C-46 Comandoes that are 121 certificated, and a few turboprop Brasilias too.
     

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