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Technical Milky New Car Paints?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Fred A, Oct 20, 2023.

  1. Fred A
    Joined: May 3, 2005
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    Many newer cars are painted with an attractive, nearly milky color. Is there a term for this kind of paint? Without a word to describe this paint, I just got a blank stare at the paint counter. How do they get this effect? At the dealership, it was described as a fine metallic. I'm not seeing the metallic. Wadup?
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  2. GearheadsQCE
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    Is it pearl?
     
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  3. Moriarity
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    sure sounds like pearl to me. there is more than one step to a paint job like that, base color, typically white. then the pearl coat suspended in clear, there is technique involved in this step to keep from "tiger striping" your car and then finally a clear coat.....
     
  4. A Boner
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    Usually used on kustoms and “show rods”.
     
  5. Fred A
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    Not pearl. Back in the synthetic era, before acrylics, pearl had crushed shells and was a devil to match. Could be a relative, not totally unlike pearl but without the cloudy quality. The "Milky" as I call it for lack of a better a better word, comes in nearly all colors, light to dark. Probably tough to hide less than perfect metal. Fred A
     
  6. MCjim
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    Perhaps post an example...
     
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  7. 05snopro440
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    I'm not surprised the paint store didn't know what you were referring to. Do you have an example of a make and model you've seen it on? I really think you're referring to a modern tri-stage paint which is what Moriarty was referring to. Here's a description:

    "With a tri-stage paint, however, there is an additional, thinly-applied 'mid coat' layer in between the base coat beneath it, and a clear coat up top. So, what is the point of needing this mid coat, anyway? Well, it has the effect of adding a sparkling finish to your car's overall paintwork. This extra layer gives the surface a sense of depth or richness that two layers alone wouldn't be able to accomplish.

    The effect is especially beautiful under sunlight when that extra layer can shine and glow, or at times be able to change colour or appearance depending on the angle that you look at it. There is a warmth to tri-stage paints, albeit at a very high cost compared to regular two-stage paint. This is made all the more painful if you ever get a stone chip, as touching up tri-coats is a complex task."
     
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  8. 05snopro440
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    Here are two examples of tri-stage pearl paints. Is this what you mean?

    0124e44815aebeeebfcf7878c0434034.jpg a009205ebc314cc5e0640cc6d36ab0ca.jpg
     
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  9. Gotgas
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    Get a paint code from a car with this paint, and we can discuss. I don’t think anyone really knows what you mean by milky.
     
  10. K13
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    Tri Stages have been being used for quite some time now nothing new about them and almost all of them are super vibrant colours. Nothing anyone would call milky. The latest trend in Automotive paint is just solid colours no metallic. Just about every manufacturer now has solid colours in their lines and they are often muted colours which may be what one would call milky. Other than white and black solid colours have been pretty much non existant in factory colours for quite some time so they really stand out when you see them now. My wife asks about them all the time when we see them.
     
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  12. ClayMart
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    Could it be something like this? :confused:

    http://www.paintref.com/cgi-bin/pai...paint color promotional name is Smokey Carmel.

    When I worked at a GM dealership I remember seeing some late 90s to early 2000s trucks painted in a color GM called "Smokey Caramel". It kind of looked like pearl, but not really. I would have described as more "cloudy" or . . . well . . . "smokey" in appearance. Think I've seen some dark greens or blues that had a similar look but not necessarily on GM vehicles.
    :cool:
     
  13. wuga
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    They are generally referred to as muted. The paint type was developed by Audi back in 2011 with the introduction of Nardo Grey. This format has become very popular and somewhat expensive. These muted shades, particularly in the greys, greens and blues would look awesome on a 20s/30s hotrod.
    Warren
    Here is a color chart
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  14. 05snopro440
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    They had an issue with clear coat adhesion, so that paint colour actually did turn milky. My mom had a Blazer in that colour that had that issue.
     
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  15. lostone
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    I betting tri-coats....


    ....
     
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  16. VOODOO ROD & CUSTOM
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    I was wondering if he means a flattened clearcoat over a Pearl ?
    VR&C.
     
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  17. Shitbox
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    That’s what I’m guessing. Lots of newer euro cars have flat over pearls now.
     

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