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Hot Rods Model A fenders on 32 framed AV8

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bart13, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. Bart13
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    Was wondering if anyone has ever seen a fully rendered AV8 Roadster with 32 rails, I know it would be a lot of work to do but someone must of attempted it. I have a a 29 Roadster on 32 rails and am trying to work out how realistic an idea it is.


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  2. Yes. Manuel Cambourakis on the NSW central coast built one in the early 90's. Deuce fenders. Don't have any pics.

    Do a search, this has been asked before so there may be pics of others.
     
  3. Ned Ludd
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    The obvious concern is that a lot of '29s on Deuce rails have had their frames pinched in the cowl area, i.e. the frame is a little bit narrower than stock at that point, the part of the frame ahead of the firewall tapers a bit less than stock, and the part behind the firewall tapers a bit more steeply. On top of that, the frame horns may or may not have been de-splayed to compensate.

    Mounting Deuce front fenders to such a frame would cause the fenders to sit a bit toe-out. It's hard to tell in advance if it would be enough to notice. If it's noticeable and/or you're anal about this sort of thing the hard way to do it would be to split the fenders lengthwise from the crown back and insert a narrow wedge of sheetmetal. The alternative would be some sort of tapering spacer between the fender and the frame. The amount of taper might be so little that spacers of different thicknesses embedded in some sort of compressible foam in lieu of welting might do the job. Of course the same thing would need to be done in the opposite direction on the running boards.

    Model A fenders are a whole different situation, because they mate up to aprons. Accordingly it would be necessary either to cover the Deuce rails with aprons that have the necessary sweep to them, which seems pointless, or try to resolve a transition from the visible rail to the apron profile in the fender. Because A front fenders affix to the top of the rails they can be set up parallel regardless of the frame pinch. There will be a hole between the fender and the side of the rail at the rear of the fender, and that may or may not coincide with the reveal stamped into the rail. It should be possible to add sheetmetal to close the gap, but meeting the reveal in some way might be tricky. I'd say it'd be best to offer up a fender to the rail and see.
     
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  4. oldolds
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    Why would you want to hide a '32 frame? You may as well have built the A frame if you wanted fenders. IMHO
     
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  5. Can't say I've seen it done but hot rodders have always colored outside the lines,most of the time the results are pleasing to the eye,other times the outcome is less than desirable.


    I believe you would be better off using '32 fenders & running boards to make it work. HRP
     
  6. Bart13
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    Thanks for the replies, the only reason I'm toying with the idea as we have a lot of regulation here about guards and the like for our vehicles. If I'm forced to have them I'd like to know what my options are. By the way, the rails are unpinched so it sounds like that aspect will be made easier.


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  7. Ned Ludd
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    Deuce fenders then, there you go.
     
  8. Here's an A roadster on a deuce frame with 32 front fenders and Model A rears. The car was slightly channeled and the fronts were modified in the cowl area.
    It was built in the 50's and recently redone. It was out of Canada and really looked great.
    The phot was taken last weekend at the Early Ford Store in S DSCF0814.JPG DSCF0815.JPG an Dimas.
     
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  9. Obviously, it can be done. Trickiest part would be mating the 32 running boards to the Model A rear fenders.

    Also a lot of holes to drill and if your frame is already boxed, putting nuts on the fender bolts will be a challenge.

    I see a lot of Oz rods with cycle type fenders. Some all around and some with fronts and bobbed stockers in back. Looks good to me but your taste may very.
     
  10. I made the fenders on the copper and scalloped deuce roadsters in this pic. They don't have to be too in your face, but you do have to have them for rego.

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  11. RiffRaffRoadster
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    Hey lurker - any idea who the owner of this car is? I'd like to see more...
     
  12. Dago 88
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    This one was in an early American Street Rodder Magazine from the 70's. :)
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