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model a fenders. year differances?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by zgears, Mar 25, 2004.

  1. zgears
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    can any body give me a tutorial on differances of model a fenders. im thinking year differances, but also coup, sedan other?
     
  2. coupe,pickup,roadster rear fenders are rather wide and sedan
    fenders are,nt. 28/29 front fenders are short and stuby,
    30/31 front fenders are long and flowing.No-one here cares.
     
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  4. DrJ
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    30-31 fenders are more flowing, previewing the shape of the '32 fenders, but they are also a couple inches taller than the tighter curved '28'29 fender, as are their respective front fender braces.
    This means you CAN lower a full fendered 30-31 a couple inches more than a 28-29 but it also means you HAVE TO lower it a couple inches more in order to "hide" the front wheel in the fender.
    30 had a two piece running board apron with a seam at the front edge of the board while the '31 was a one piece apron.
    All Model As had some kind of apron between the body and running board.
    The '32 V8 and model B were different there. They did away with the apron, bolting the running board to the bottom of the frame itself, hence the '32 Ford frame's contoured reveal that follows the front fender line to the running board.
     
  5. modernbeat
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    In addition to what's different between the 28-29 and the 30-31 fenders, I'd like a tutorial on other differences. Like what's the differences between 28AR, 28 and 29 Roadster fenders?

    For that matter, what's the best, lowest looking, most flowing set of fenders that fit a '28 roadster?

    Jim A?
     
  6. zgears
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    so this is a 28-29?
     

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  7. zgears
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    back
     

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  8. Far as roadster rear fenders go some differences are:

    28-29's are wider than the 30-31's by approx 1".
    The notch for the running board apron is different, I think and don't quote me on this part cuz my 31 is in storage so I can't check, but the 31 has a deeper notch.

    The circumference for 28-29's is the same as the 30-31's which means you can use either fender on either roadster - if you are bobbing them.
    They can remain unbobbed in the back, but the front will have to be bobbed enough to cut away the running board apron notch.

    The fender mounting bolt patterns are different as well, but no big deal to drill some new holes.

    I'm using a Ford 9" narrowed to 56" outer brake drum to outer brake drum and 6 x 15" steel wheels with 3" backspacing.
    Rear tires are 235/80-15's and they sit under either fender style quite well.
    The car is fairly low in back, about as low as you can go.
    The outer fender flange is close to the tire when the 30-31 fenders are used and the additional 1" clearance with the 28-29 fenders offer a little more clearance with the outer fender flange and they are the fenders I'll use on the 31.

    Here's a couple of pics that may help illustrate.
    First one of the 30-31 fender on the drivers side.
     

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  9. The 28-29 fender on the passenger side.

    Reason I ended up with these is I bought them as a pair and the tipoff should have been how well they nested together when hanging on the wall of an old barn.
    Somebody had bobbed them and used em on an early 50's era hot rod.
    Then I bought a pair of good stocker 28-29's that I thought were 31's cuz they fit the 31 roadsters wheelwells ok.
    Then I realized the two bobbed fenders were a different width.
    The two stockers were run on my friends 28 roadster for a couple of years, he bought some nice re-pro's for it, so I got the fenders back and will be bobbing one or both of them for the 31.

    Sure is a lot of interesting education going on in this here hobby we're involved in.
    Least there is for me.... [​IMG]
     

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  10. Cword
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    AR/A
    Front fender difference is most noticable at the inner rear corner. The early fender has a round sweep the later fender has a square corner. Most fiberglass fenders are copies of the later fender.
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  11. zgears
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    so what ya think of my fender? 28-29. also any info on T fenders?
     
  12. lik2writ
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    Basically , its always been 2 major groups for the year sets: Coupe/Roadster/Cabriolet and Pickup OR Sedans , Phaeton, Delivery and Station Wagon. I have an old book around somewhere on all specs. I got a pair of 29 sedan fenders up in the barn loft for reference if you don't get an answer.That way, process of elimination. As for the Model T fenders , I use catalogs as reference. Go to rootlieb.com. They have some great drawings for identifying T fenders for all years and styles.
     
  13. alchemy
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    Zgear, my guess is you don't have a Ford fender. There looks to be no cutout for the splash apron on the front inner edge. And the crown above the wheel seems to have a bit too much sharpness. The last clue I think is that Ford fenders didn't elongate all the bolt holes, just some on the ends. There were some early repros (Fulton?) that had elongated holes though.


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