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Model A suicide front end question...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mizlplix, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. Mizlplix
    Joined: Jan 8, 2007
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    Having no experience with a spring-behind-the-axle set up, I question the strength.

    The model A wishbone was not designed to take twisting/and downward shearing forces. They seem to be fairly thinly built.

    Is it necessary to reinforce it to be safe?
    Do they break a lot?
    This is where all of your experience will really pay off for me. THX, DB

     
  2. Crusty Nut
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    try the search feature. This is a dead horse.
     
  3. Mizlplix
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    "Search feature" already used to a silly extent. So many conflicting answers exist with a database this large.

    My thanks to you, sir for at least taking the time to respond. DB
     
  4. Model A axles are not normal candidates for spring behind because it isn't necessary. Spring behind is usually reserved for the axles that originally had the spring in front. i.e. a '39.

    Spring behind is not what defines a suicide front end. A suicide front end has the spring perched out in front of the crossmember, and can be configured spring over or spring behind.
    There are a lot of HAMB threads that discuss it. Your concerns about wishbone strength have been addressed quite a few times here, and opinions differ. I use Google vs HAMB search to get more specific results. Try this list of threads..........

    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2006-42,GGLG:en&q=%22spring+behind%22+site:www%2ejalopyjournal%2ecom
     
  5. 30roadster
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  6. 30roadster
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    and here an awsome fabrication from Paul
     
  7. Paul
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  8. 30roadster
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    I did goof...you got the right one....but they are both great work :)
     
  9. Paul
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    even then, the second example isn't really a suicide front end,
    it's a spring behind with spring in the stock location but axle in front and still under the frame.
     
  10. Frank
    Joined: Jul 30, 2004
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    ...and/or having your spindles flipped around with your tie-rod out front becoming your bumper. Not to mention Ackerman geometry that can never quite get perfect due to the way the spindles are flipped around.
     

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