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Projects Model T pickup ( working on the rear axle )

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Retired, May 7, 2009.

  1. Retired
    Joined: Jan 4, 2009
    Posts: 366

    Retired
    Member

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    I ran into some problems on the rear end !

    With the addition of the auxiliary transmission, I cant depend on the stock model T brake that stops the drive shaft.
    If the auxiliary transmission is in neutral then there is no braking action transmitted to the drive shaft.

    The emergency brakes on a 1925 rear axle are only 8 inch diameter and 1 inch wide.
    They are also unlined steel shoes. Even if I got the newer lined shoes they are not big enough to use for full time brakes.

    So .. I have a set of old aftermarket outside brake bands with new linings on them and a pair of axle mounting brackets.
    I figured I could use a set of 11 inch brake drums from the 26 or 27 model T and mount them over the stock 8 inch drums on the 25 rear axle.
    Then I could use the outside brake bands.

    Here are the brake bands, mounting brackets and 11 brake drums.
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    First off .. the auxiliary brake mounting brackets will not fit the 25 axle housings.
    Then I realized the 26/27 drums won't fit over 25 drums either.

    I did find out the auxiliary brake mounting brackets will fit the 26/27 axle housing.
    I tried to find a complete 26/27 rear axle but could only find axle housings.

    Here is a 26/27 housing on the left and a 25 housing on the right. You can see the difference in the diameter of the backing plates.
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    The model T used the same gears and axle shafts in all the cars thru 27 so I can put the parts from my axle in the 26/27 housings.
    Then I can use the outside brake bands.
    I will have to make the actuating leavers, rods and brackets as they are missing.

    I was able to pick up a good pair of 26/27 emergency brake shoes off ebay at about 1/3 the cost of new shoes.
    The 26/27 shoes are a thin formed steel.
    Even though they have a lining riveted to them, they are to thin to use as full time brakes.
    I feel they would over heat real fast.
    Besides .. I still need emergency and parking brakes.


    I purchased new rear axle shafts, bearings, bearing sleeves, thrust washers and seals.
    This is****embling the axle.
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    The rear axle housings are bolted together and the drive shaft is bolted in place.
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    Then I removed the small 8 inch drums from the wheels and replaced them with the larger 11 inch brake drums.
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    Next was to make the mechanism to operate the outside brakes.
    This is laying out the front mounting brackets out of 1/2 inch steel.
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    Finished bracket mounted in place.
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    Making the bushing housings for the pivot rods.
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    Bushing housing welded in place on the bracket.
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    Making the brake actuating bracket.
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    Finished brake pivot rods and actuating arms.
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    Upper and lower clevis arms are completed and attached to the actuating arm and the outside brake band,
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    These are the rear brake levers that I built that fit on the inside of the brake pivot rods.
    They have adjustable stops to control how far the outside brake bands open up.
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    Rear brake arms installed.
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    The stock emergency brake shoes are installed.
    I have to put new bushings in the rear spring mounts and bolt them on to the backing plate and then the wheel can go back on.
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  2. Southfork
    Joined: Dec 15, 2001
    Posts: 1,465

    Southfork
    Member

    I admire your ambition, Ray, but I don't think I could do what you're doing. I collected Model T's for a long time, and now have a barn full of 'em. But I'll be going to later frames, suspensions, running gear, and especially brakes. Still, It's cool that you are working with what existed 1909 - 1927.
     

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