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Model T wheel bolt pattern?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sgtlethargic, Feb 19, 2009.

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  2. T-Time
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    You mean the wire wheels from '26/'27? They are 5 on 5".
     
  3. T-Time
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    Only the '26/'27 T's with the optional wire wheels have a bolt-on wheel. All others have spindle mount wheels (like knock-off wheels), so there is no bolt pattern.
     
  4. Spyder
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    Kurt, I have been thinking similar thoughts. I think the outer wheel bearings are threaded on the inside. Could be wrong. I think they are 3/4" and are left hand threads on one side. I am playing with adapting another set of hubs.
     
  5. Spyder
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    I believe the spindle mounts are for wood spoke wheels. I've been looking at them, and I don't feel comfortable trying to adapt the hub to a bolt pattern.

    I'm wondering if the below item would fit on a T spindle to help adapt to a different set of hubs. I've probably lost my mind.

    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Weld-Bungs,1538.html
     
  6. What exactly are you trying to do? Early Chevy spindles/hubs can be used on a T front axle- they're a 6 bolt pattern, or you could use adapter bearings to use a different hub.
     
  7. Retired
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    A word of caution here...
    The model T front axle is not strong enough to take a lot weight or horsepower and they don't have mounts for front brakes.

    Your a lot better of with a 30's or 40's axle
     
  8. I don't see what the weld bungs would do as far, as adapting a "T" spindle . Those are for splitting bones. Leave the "T" axle for the restorers or the speedster guys. Way too wimpy for a hot rod.
     
  9. Retired
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    The model T front axle is not strung enough for a HA/GR !

    From what I can see in the photos they are using 30's & 40's front axles or aftermarket tube axles.
     
  10. Spyder
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    I hear what you are saying about T stuff being real light duty. I had some ideas about a motorcycle powered car, super light weight.

    About the welding bungs.. I have some trailer hubs that got on sale for about $10 and use 5x4.5 bolt pattern. The outer bearings are 1". I should be able to screw the weld bungs on the T spindle, and use the trailer hubs. I have not made on the measurements yet to see if it will work. I have a bunch of T stuff, and would like to think something can be done with it.
     
  11. antiqueautomike
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    Many of the T suppliers sell wood wheel hub to wire conversion plates. They come in either 5 on 5 for T wheels or 5 on 5.5 for Model A-V8. try Texas T parts www.texastparts.com
     
  12. Redcloud
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    Wire Wheels on 26 and 27 T's are 5 on 4 1/4 same as early early 60's Dodge Darts
     
  13. T-Time
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    Ummmm. No, T wires are not 5 on 4 1/4". Like I said before, they are 5 on 5". I just went to the garage and measured to make sure that I had not lost my mind.


    T front axles are not weak. They will bend, but they WILL NOT break. Still, they are not weak. It would take a lot to bend one (usually, back in the day, the result of running into a stump at speed). A high performance engine is not going to affect it unless you're getting the front end off the ground. It is drop forged vanadium steel.
     
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  14. Redcloud
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  15. V4
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    5 bolt - 5" circle.

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  16. six pin sprint car wheels are supposed to fit on the wood hubs, have seen a few front sprint car wheels mounted on t hubs, Halibrand look cool
     
  17. manyolcars
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    my model T wire wheels are 5 on 5"
     
  18. The37Kid
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    Not 100% sure if the sprint car pattern is the same but the MIDGET pattern was based on the very first Midget wheels that were made from welding a 1926-27 WOOD WHEEL brake drums to a 12 inch utility rim. Chevy disk wheels & hubs from the 1920 are a even swap to T spindles. The correct 26-27 Ford Factory wire wheel bolt pattern is 5 on 5. Anyone need photos?
     
  19. T-Time
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    Sorry, RedCloud, but that just is NOT correct.
     

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