Folks Of Interest Moderation Clarification... or a lack thereof...

My reason for this is to illustrate that this stuff was at a minimum drafted and may have been prototyped and ended up on the street.

It may help with the consideration of bags as an inspired element wherin yes new bags are new therefore inspired but they are being applied for many of the reasons
the drafted versions were.

Below are quotes and visuals.

Rioy w. Brown, Akron, Ohio Application January 8, 1936, Serial No. 57,355 54 Claims. (Cl. 267-15) A further object of the present invention is to provide a new form of bellows mounted upon the vehicle to take the place of the standard metal spring at present employed, and to so mount the bellows without interference with the emciency of the steering mechanism.





1955...

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7,000+ views, 180+ comments.
As is already known, we as members on this board are p***ionate about traditional cars/styles, and this website.
I'm not one to recall exacting details about the history of Hotrodding/Traditional styling (or anything else for that matter)..I am an expert on my perception of what a traditional Hotrod is (just like everyone else on here).
I appreciate this site for many reasons, mostly as a venue/sounding board for our expressions of our interpretations of our shared p***ion..Traditional styled Hotrods.
I remember a few years ago when this sites format was changed..major uproar, lost members, how will we ever get used to it?, etc.
We don't handle change well.
Thanks for a great web site Ryan.

 

Where's that dead horse icon when you need it?

 

That **** doesn't like me. The last 2 times I drank it, margaritas at a local cantina... I got home, got out of the car and it came up. The last, I was doing shots (with a guy that had MS...), I had a good base going, maybe 9 beers and a belly full of burgers and dogs. Again, that feeling of a frozen ball of mercury (Mercurys are traditional?) rolling back and forth in my gut, made it to my back fence and fed the earthworms on the other side.

 

They make tampons and Midol...

 

^^^^ Well explained Moriarity. It really ain't that hard if you stop & think about it. Hell, that ought to be a 'sticky' for those with questions.

 

Dave,
I just happened to pick this one out of the apple barrel. You hit some points that I feel the need to address.

Hot Rodding and Traditional Hot Rodding are not the same.

In Traditional Hot Rodding there is a perimeter. There is an envelope. That envelope has already been pushed and it was pushed there over 50 years ago.

The 1966 289 Engine and C 4 not being Traditional

Here is an example of taking obvious intent......( that intent being the HAMB's exclusion or at least clarification of modern suspensions and modifications on....these uber low 2010 ish era new vehicles built with old bodies.) Twisting it into a straw man argument.

So what you are saying is basically a 1966 289 C 4 is the same or should be the same as a 5.0 Coyote with a 6 speed or EAOD, Powerstroke Diesel, Mustang II kits or the same as a Crown Victoria Frame Swap......

In my opinion this is nit picking and going against the obvious intent of this whole subject.
The Small Block Ford was there.... used at the time....had aftermarket support.....To start excluding pre 1965 designed engines and parts due to year of manufacture goes against common sense.

This thread has deteriorated into legalistic Court World and Straw Man arguments.

The HAMB is common sense site for old hot rods and customs built in a Pre 66 style. That's pretty cut and dried.

The sky is blue. This also, is pretty cut and dried.......... but wait!

The sky could be gray.....
Sometimes the sky is black....at night it is.
It's really more of a green....yeah the sky is green.
What is blue?
It's more greenish than yellowish?
Color blind people perceive colors differently so who am I to say what color the sky is?

This sky argument can go on and on with everyone knowing.........

The sky is blue.

 

the prolixity of this subject has given me a penchant for tequila.............

 

Damn, I had to look that up!
Terrible disease, I've met many who had it...

 

I would love to build one with all pre 65 parts but its not going to happen due to lack of those old parts,I am not going to spend years looking when I can use slightly newer parts and have it on the road much sooner. I am lucky that I have three old junkyards with in 100 miles of the house that I can get old parts but they have been picked apart and what is left might not be good enough to use so some stuff will have to be allowed to slide in under the pre 65 radar.

 

its getting hard to find pre 65 brake parts. I wouldn't trust NOS rubber parts

 

I love this guy!!!.....

 

it was a toss up between Clint and this one
I wonder if this is what the bossman looks like?

 

A lot of the keyboard combativeness is much of the reason I stopped posting on my build thread here. I don't want my MII install on what is otherwise going to be a very nice and very traditional custom to devolve into a ******* contest with people commenting on my suspension choice and engine selection. Especially when those individuals haven't built a damn thing that's noteworthy.

Personally, I don't have a problem when it comes to bags, but I limit that to cars where all the suspension components are hidden by fenders. I don't see the harm in a MII swap where you're changing from one IFS to that of a different design. Frankly, that is less aesthetically offensive than a disc brake swap on a open wheeled car. You could argue that the disc brake swap is in the name of safety, and I would agree with you, but so is a decent suspension and tight steering rack where crisper handling may stave off the need for the m***ive braking power a set of discs provide. There's lots of "non-traditional" stuff in the traditional stuff here. Big tubular frame members in a deuce ch***is are one that come to mind off the top of my head, though I have no issue whatsoever in that.

Where I start to have an issue is with late model engine swaps, EFI, etc., that is overtly modern at first glance. Other than that, I place much more value in a mostly traditional or traditional inspired build where people are putting real work in with pride and craftsmanship rather than some ******* with no car and no skill yelling about how not-traditional something is or isn't. This wasn't as much of a problem in 2004 when I joined the HAMB, as it was mainly comprised of ******** car guys. Now the HAMB is huge, and a lot of clowns full of their own opinion have seeped in. Not everybody's opinion counts the same.

 

Nobody is going to delete your post or complain because you used a rear end out of a 67 model vehicle. They will if you use one out of a 2005 Corvette. Do we really need to do this?

 

Damn, this thread is still going? Guys, give it a break. Just stop already.

 

Yeah, what ^^^^ he said....

 

Air bags were around, but were never used to, gasp, (lay frame) Did anyone use a headlight for an interior light? Or an interior rear view mirror as an outside mounted mirror?

Can we get back to what's important, spray paint cans, and saving them...

 

[QUOTE P.S. Mines a Pontiac, very few are interested in Pontiacs, traditional or not. I'm OK with that. LOL[/QUOTE]

I've been watching that build; very cool. Like what you're doing.

 

Anthony,Wonder what happened to Clint,he use to be a hot rodder.



Mr. Eastwood had a Model T Flathead powered lakes modified that his dad bought for a whopping 25 bucks.

It went on to say that he took auto shop at Oakland Technical High School and often rebuilt engines,,he was only interested in fast cars and easy women. HRP

 

At the risk of getting it closed, I have bought parts at Speedway. LOL

 

Danny, don't you remember - he got a Gran Torino. Not traditional so he doesn't post here anymore. Lol

 

Chicken Little was right!

 

I heard that! HRP

 

I received a text from Facebook telling me I could go to my Facebook account and opt out of the data collection that they say I opted in. Amazing since I have never signed up for Facebook,Twitter or any other social media other than here on the HAMB. It actually took me quite a while to even sign up here for worries of my privacy being stolen. The internet was designed to take away our privacy and this very thing proves it. I can't sign in to a Facebook account that I never signed into to tell them to change an option of privacy that they concocted from the theft of my privacy. How in the hell did they even get my phone number to text me their lie? I miss the good old days of paper communication and copper telephone land lines that they had to climb a pole near you to tap your phone with an individual court order from a judge. The convenience of the internet and all it has brought to us was not in my opinion worth all we have lost because of it. We have no choice now and can only ride it down as far as it takes us.

 

I guess that means someone else opened a Facebook account with your info.......


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Yes they made bags patended bags even used some in STOCK caddies but show me three pre 65 customs that have them. Even that would make them more of a fad that tradition.
Definition of traditional
1 : of or relating to tradition : consisting of or derived from tradition

• a traditional celebration

2 : handed down from age to age

• traditional history

• traditional songs/stories

3 : following or conforming to tradition : adhering to past practices or established conventions

• traditional morality

• traditional values/beliefs

• employing traditional methods of cooking

Read #3 and all of this doesnt realy matter as far as the rule go that is ryan choise I just want to more on the real history of bagged rides as of the late 70s early 80s when I started reading al the car books and mags I could get my hands on I never rember seeing them untile the late 80s. Please prove me wrong post picks from your early hot rod custom sorces.

 

Its slightly more then that,it would be a automatic o/d or t-5 in the build that would be slightly o/t along with disc brakes. I like to stop and do not want to feed a screaming motor on long trips.