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Most effective portable burnout surfaces????

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Pensive Scribe, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. bohica2xo
    Joined: Mar 6, 2012
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    from Las Vegas

    Easy solution.

    Contact the local trench plate rental company, and have them come drop a couple of big assed plates. We are talking about 8ft x 15 ft plates that are 1.5 inches thick.

    A single plate weighs 7500 pounds, and can be secured to the ground. The plate company does it every day.

    B.
     
  2. outlaw256
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    my wifes 05 will. it burn them lousy ass factory tires plum off. and so will her 07 300 hemi. still dont understand the logic behind doing it. but damn it makes me feel like im 20 again. and i havent been that for 36 yrs.
     
  3. 51delivery
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    Our local car show uses a plate similar to a grader blade. I think is was made special for the burnouts at some point. Bleach water is also used. The tires set down in the channel. I think they use chocks in the front too. This year they learned that you should not put the plate in the grass. A truck finished than pulled off the plate and the hot tires caught the dry grass on fire. Saw a set of red tires make neat red tire smoke at the Mopar Nats a couple of years ago. I personally do not like them from a safety stand point unless there are retainig walls between the cars and the crowd.
     
  4. graham_paige
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    Another thought, on a practical level. have you spoken with you public liability people about this. Will they cover you if you do this? Don't want to hear of you loosing your house because something happened and the insurance Co refused to pay out
     
  5. hooliganshotrods
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  6. It's on! Timing testing done and everything. This is our intermission event before finals.

    You guys would probably die if you knew my opinion on the subject, but when you are a group you go with the majority and that's that.

    It is not up to one individual to ensure a safe event however. That is why I posed the question here. Thanks again for the usefull input.

    Doug.
     
  7. Plenty of bleach and anything with a hard surface
     
  8. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    Well, I kinda already did. :D And I get what you are trying to do. The timing system works good? Man, I can just IMAGINE the kind of shit I woulda got into if I'd had access to a system like that 30 yrs ago!

    Burnout contests are about the dullest, dumbest think going in my opinion, but the unwashed masses seem to like them.
     
  9. Standard gas&oil
    Joined: Dec 3, 2010
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    Standard gas&oil
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    from USA #1

    What is wrong with some of you people? Never did a burn off in your life or does your car not have the power to smoke the tires? Really are you that old and boring to not have a little fun in life? I cant take my cars or the tires with me when I die.
     
  10. Let us wrong, powerless, old, and boring people complain- we aren't trying to stop you from the satisfaction of a gratuitous burnout.
     
  11. billsill45
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    Standing around, drinking beer, watching some dipshit destroy his own car ... what's not to like about that?
     
  12. stainlesssteelrat
    Joined: Nov 23, 2010
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    donut contests are a ton better... you know.. the type.. you put a traffic cone
    in a empty spot of a parking lot and try to do a donut around it.. takes a bit
    of skill.

    oh and no one ruins good tires doing that... we all go snag a crap ton of use tires for
    that.. anything that holds air.. we send off old dry rotted biasplys that way too.
     
  13. 8flat
    Joined: Apr 2, 2006
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    Very true, I think all brands are doing this now, it's a good way to minimize broken drivetrains....

    Yet another reason for a good burnout contest, it shows people what old cars can do compared to newer computer-controlled cars! haha
     
  14. 8flat
    Joined: Apr 2, 2006
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    LOL, I hear ya.
     
  15. Lone Star Mopar
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    Burnouts are cool, burnout contests...meh. Either way you guys stay safe , and I hope ya'll have a good turnout.
     
  16. RodStRace
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    Just a FYI, all the new hemis are throttle by wire. When you push the loud pedal, it sends a 'request' to the computer. The computer decides how much to open the throttle...:eek:
    Also, most of them will set a DTC if you power brake it. So if you are out there stomping on the gas and brake at the same time trying to get it to burnout or launch hard, you set a specific code. Do you think the dealer will use that against you for warranty?:eek:
     
  17. yetiskustoms
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    Go to any car show and what stands out is people frying tires and nice sounding engines singing at high rpms. Im too cheap to waste my own tires, but entertaining yes! I have always seen heavy plate steel being used at the contests. And better yet, having the car teathered down so it doesnt get away. Got to be safe you know haha. What is annoying however is one drunk asshole trying to kill everyone by being unsafe. Sounds like you mean well, and im all for it. I hate mundane boring car shows!!!
     
  18. stainlesssteelrat
    Joined: Nov 23, 2010
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    my dad's o/t 8.0 V10 dakota will smoke em all day long without power brakeing.

    course.. it's a useless truck in the rain..
     
  19. stainlesssteelrat
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    most who do the burnout contests use old used tires to fry.. it's fun .

    course it helps that most of us have old style tire changers in our shops and
    bring em to shows where the donut contests and burnout contests will happen.
     
  20. 50dodge4x4
    Joined: Aug 7, 2004
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    Having been involved with running a burn out contest for many years before handing off the "idea" to the next group that still has a annual burn out contest, I can tell you what we used to do.

    We got a 4' x 8' sheet of 1/4" plate (it was a rusty plate we got from an old welding shop because it was too rusty to use according to the shop owner). We added a short 6" piece of 3" channel at both ends of one 8' side, flat up, opening facing the 4' side. Securely weld the channel to the plate, you definitely do not want the channel to come off the plate.

    Then we took a heavy wall 8' long 2" x4" tube and welded an extra shoe of 1/4" x 6" x 12" long at both ends of the tube, 6" side up off the 4" side of the tube. The shoes were welded securely and gusseted to the tube. At each end of our tube, we added a frame straightening quality hook with the opening facing away from the shoes.

    Then we added 2 8' lengths of frame straightening quality chain to the channels that were welded to the plate. These chains passed through the opening of the channels to form a loop on each channel and were bolted back to themselves with grade 8 bolts.

    The process: The plate was laid on the blacktop, with the 8' as the width and the length being the 4'. Then the car backed onto the plate, centered width wise and length wise onto the plate. The tube was slid under the car in front of the front tires. The shoes were wedged against the front tires, 6" edge up and the chains from the 4' x 8' plate were hooked onto the hooks. The car was pulled forward to insure the shoes were seated against the tires. The car had to power brake, or line lock the front tires. The plate was watered under the rear tires, and the driver was given the signal to go. We did the burn for a timed 30 seconds, with the time keeper/official standing beside the driver door. Drivers were instructed to kill the power whenever the official grabbed his arm through the open driver window. If the car moved at all the burn was stopped.

    We did the burn out contest for 10 years, I believe we flipped the plate and redid the channels one time during those years. Once we figured out how to secure the car, we never had an incident with the cars jumping the shoes or any other issues with the burnout contest. It was always a crowd favorite and we always had at least 8-10 entrees.

    We had a perimeter roped off at least 30' on both sides. There was no access behind the car, nor in front of the car. We had a cement barrier and hay bales to catch the rubber behind the car (you really need some kind of backstop to catch the burned off rubber) and another cement barrier in front of the car. The car had to back around the front barrier to get onto the plate. Crowd control was always the biggest issue, I was amazed how so many thought they should be able to stand beside the car while it was burning out. The city is more then willing to set the plate, the cement barriers, and the backstop before and pick it up after the event.

    Over the years, we had several tires blow out, and we had more then a few cars break stuff.

    When we handed our burn out plate over to the next group, I know they have done the burn out for at least 8 years Probably longer, time flies when your having fun). I think last year the finally decided to replace the plate, it was very badly warped towards the end of our use, can't imagine how it looked all those years later. As far as I know, they are still using our shoe tube and chains.
    Our method used the car to hold the plate in place, and we could move the car around on the plate a bit to more distribute the heat produced. As the car pulled away, we always watered the plate to cool it off, you could almost hold your hand on it before the next car was in position. With all the front wheel drive cars around these days, I have no idea how or if they made modifications for those cars to burn out. I would think you could brace the plate with something rigid off the rear wheels, holding the plate in position is the challenge.

    Weather or not burnouts make any sense to you, it is still a popular contest for spectators and participants today. The guys holding the contest always have 20 or more guys enter. Gene
     
  21. 50Dodge4X4
    We really appreciate the mental picture. Good discriptive verbage. Definitely usefull.

    Thanks.

    Doug.
     
  22. burnout2614
    Joined: Sep 21, 2009
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    My friends who think burnouts are stupid are the first to cheer me on when I do one! 50dodge4x4 has my favorite example of a "portable" surface. Old tires are WAY better to burnout than new ones. I enjoy watching someone do a burnout if they know what they are doing. Also I have LOTS of women tell me they LOVE the smell of burnout! peace
     
  23. For those who have seen steel plates used, can you recall any problems with cars running slicks, or have they been using mailnly street tires? This question came up at our meeting tonight.

    Doug.
     
  24. stainlesssteelrat
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    just make sure you spike em down or someone is gonna losse some feet.
     
  25. 50dodge4x4
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    I don't ever remember anyone using slicks at our burnout contests. Seems after the first year or two, most guys showed up with old junk tires. Thing is, your running the show, you set the rules. If the guys want to burn out (and they will) they will follow your rules. If you have concerns about slicks, state clearly they will not be allowed in your advertising and reinforce it.

    If anyone is in the Freeport IL (61032 zip) area on Aug 11, 2012, Freeport is having their annual cruise night (they actually cruise downtown) and part of the festivities include the burn out contest and a muffler wrapping contest, both of which have a lot of participants. The festivities start at 4 PM and wrap up around 10PM. You can check current info through www.FreeportCruiseNight.org

    I have nothing to do with the deal. Gene
     
  26. My thoughts, exactly! They have infiltrated the HAMB! This is a Hot Rod site.:eek:
    How about pouring a concrete slab, big enough for a car, with some anchors ( attach chains or straps), to keep the safety brigade (insurance) happy. :rolleyes: you could always remove the slab after the event, or build a picnic table on top of it;).
     
  27. moefuzz
    Joined: Jul 16, 2005
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    Doug,

    Thanks for putting on such a great show...



    And to all those nay sayers


    You Should Have Been There


    (The mayor was and he "won" every round) -go figure


    Hope you guys are able to do it again in 2013......







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    moe



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  28. Yeah it was great! All that were involved, loved it. I didn't think the steel plate was as good as pavement or concrete. Going to make a concrete pad for next year.

    WE learned a lot. To have nearly a thousand spectators in a small town of four thousand. I'd say it was a success.

    The mayor drives a supercharged modern Mustang rag and took it to the semi final. He's a former police officer and had never raced in his life. His foot slipped off the brake a bit and he red lighted. His car was fast and he had a good chance. Next year I'll revive this thread and try to document our new plan for a pad. Thanks again for everyone's input.

    Doug.
     
  29. By the way here's Moe's ride during a pause in the action. He beat on that pristine old girl hard and she took it.

    Speed for the old flatie was 28 mph and the tires put out their fair share of smoke in the proccess.

    Thanks for coming Moe.

    IMG_3278b.jpg
     

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