Event Coverage My Hershey Nightmare

Can we kill this thread, it is going nowhere.

 

sure it is.its going somewhere...you just added to it

 

Look man, the hershey nightmare is here. The hershey nightmare is queer. You're just gonna have to get over it.

 

The good dogs return 6 days later with s****ple and perogies from Pennsylvania.

 

If this doesn't do it, nothing will...

 

Best Italian bread anywhere! I grew up in the city, just 1 mile from "the rocks". Used to get that stuff FRESH on Sunday mornings when I was a kid.

 

how about Pat's cheese steaks

 

You're just jealous.

 

The folks on the AACA board have gotten a hold of this thread. The debate is hot & heavy. They are calling BS on the whole deal. It is digressing quickly, not quite to the point of debating who has the best meat pies but close
http://forums.aaca.org/ubbthreads.php/topics/548502/Whats_the_deal_with_modified_c#Post548502

 

Billybobdad, you might be surprised who is here AND there.

 

No I wouldn't

 

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Can we kill this thread, it is going nowhere.

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I think it's actually gone pretty darned far!

Oh, and NOBODY bakes a cake as tasty as a Tastykake!

AND HOW 'BOUT DEM PHILLIES!!!

 

Has anyone mentioned Schoo Fly Pie? Goes just fine with any meal, or between meals with a cup of coffee.

 

Bob, the Amish also make great Whoopie Pies!!!

Shoo Fly is one of my favorites- haven't had any since I moved down here, so I gotta get some next time I'm up North.

 

Way to go "Fightin' Phillies!"

 

hahahahahahaha

 

Hey Guys,

Peter Gariepy here... webmaster of the AACA site, AACA discussion forums, and past AACA Director.

We're having a little chat about this very subject on the AACA site. See it at: http://forums.aaca.org/ubbthreads.php/topics/548502/1

First - the guy discussed by the original poster was wrong. Common courtesy should have applied.

Second - AACA members like our cars restored (mostly), that&#8217;s our preference. You'll still find plenty of modified cars owned by AACA members.

Yes, the rules for the AACA Eastern Fall National (better know as Hershey) car show is 25 years or older, with a main emphasis on restored cars.

Showing up to Hershey with a hot rod is no different than a truck showing up at a motorcycle show, or a Nissan trying to get on the field of a VW show. Pretty common sense IMHO.

Hershey is bigger now than ever, and the rules haven&#8217;t changed much in 55 years. I feel for the guy if you traveled far, but he can only blame himself for not doing his homework.

Bottom line is we all love pretty much the same thing &#8211; wheels, engines, the smell of gas, turning wrenches and chatting about our vehicles.

To paraphrase Rodney King &#8211; &#8220;why can&#8217;t we all just get along?&#8221;

Be well.

Peter

P.S. I've been a lurker around here for years - you'd be surprised at what i have in my garage.

 

I think 90% of the people here and 90% of the people on your site agree.

 

I wonder if BigPete likes pieroggies or s****ple? Would he mind if I brought either of those to Hershey? I wonder if I could order peiroggies at a hotdog stand? Can I keep my CT license if I live in PA? Should I restore my Woody to factory or do a traditional fenderless rod? If I weld will tig be better than mig? Will anyone like me or agree with me? What was this thread about?

One thing I do know, I like HAMB!

 

I wonder if BigPete likes pieroggies or s****ple? BOTH!

Would he mind if I brought either of those to Hershey? HECK NO!

I wonder if I could order peiroggies at a hotdog stand? YES. NEAR THE POLISH CAR SECTION.

Can I keep my CT license if I live in PA? NAFC.

Should I restore my Woody to factory or do a traditional fenderless rod? ITS YOUR CAR, DO WITH IT AS YOU PLEASE.

If I weld will tig be better than mig? I PREFER TMIG WELDING.

Will anyone like me or agree with me? SURE

One thing I do know, I like HAMB! SO DO I! GREAT FORUM!

 

Well, now that you're here, tell us about 'em....

 

Hmm... were do i start:

1998 Dodge Dakota RT pickup with a heavily modified engine.

1956 Plymouth with a 383 from a late sixties Dodge.

1961 King Midget with the original Wisconsin 9 HP 1 cylinder replaced with a 18 HP Briggs and Stratton. (YES, it's street legal!) Oh, it's got 1959 Caddy taillights, a working hood and other body mods. Bet you cant say you have on one of those!

 

Simple, don't bring a knife to a gunfight!

Now, who likes Churros?

 

any takers on Moon Pies?

 

Never had any or knew what they were, Google is a wonderful thing. Were is a good place in Hollywood to get some?

 

BP, I really appreciate your forthrightness and I think almost all of agree with what you said. Now, my questions/thoughts are:

It seems odd to me that AACA would accept a bone stock 1982 Chevrolet Cavalier but turn down an original Model A hot rod that was built in 1952.One's too new for me to think of it as antique, the other's old enough to be one.

Also, if I am reading the posts on the AACA Forum correctly, cars at AACA shows are supposed to be shown the way they left the factory. Since older Rolls-Royces, Bentleys and Deusenbergs were sold as ch***is only, it would seem they should only be shown that way. But, they then had custom body work intsalled by coachbuilders. So,why wouldn't a "totally restored to factory specs" 1931 Ford Model A ch***is with a 1981 handmade hot rod body qualify? Seems to me that's the same thing? Not to be a smart ***, but it appears capricious to me, ie "it doesn't because we say it doesn't". And yet in the end, it's still your show.

 

5Window,

You bring up some fair questions. Let me answer them the best I can:

As recently as 2004 the AACA tested have a "antique hot rod cl***". Unfortunately it was ended due to not being able to do***ent the pedigree of most of the cars.

As to your question about bodies, here is what the AACA judging guidelines say:

Exceptions:
1. Precise identical duplication of a complete body or any part of the vehicle’s original body, as fitted to the ch***is of the original vehicle when purchased new by the original owner is acceptable, provided such duplication is reasonably required by the absence, destruction, or deterioration beyond re pair. This would also include the duplication of a “First” body, supplied by a recognized outside source to a vehicle that was originally offered as “Ch***is only”. Such an example would be the Commercial and Station Wagon bodies mounted on the Ford Model T Ch***is.

2. A vehicle rebodied by a recognized body builder during the era contemporary with the period that the vehicle was originally manufactured. (Example: Cl***ic cars rebodied during the Cl***ic era by a recognized body builder.)

3. Transfer of an original body from the ch***is of one vehicle to the ch***is of another vehicle of the same make, model, and year of manufacture. This also includes parts of authentic bodies that are transferred. For example: wire wheels for wood wheels, side mount fenders for non-side mount fenders, etc.

Take a look at the entire AACA Judging Guidelines. It explains the details.

As to your specific example: “1931 Ford Model A ch***is with a 1981 handmade hot rod body”. You generally couldn’t buy a 1931 Ford Model A ch***is in 1931. On top of that, no one in 1931 chopped or tubbed a Model A, so a modern hotrodded body would not be era correct. Occasionally Ford did let ch***iss out to be rebodied. For example the Brewster. They are welcome at AACA events. See picture below. NOTE: AACA members use reproduction body parts regularly, and I would not be surprised if a few have used replacement bodies, as long as they are "Precise identical duplication of a complete body". i.e. not modified from original.

It’s worth noting: the vast majority of the AACAs 60,000 members don’t show their cars, they simply drive and enjoy them. Most have made some minor changes to make the car more fun to drive. Example: Electric fuel pumps, safety gl***, modern materials for paint and interior, steel belted tires, modern carburetors, modern wiring, etc. etc. etc. These modifications don’t preclude people from attending an AACA event. As a matter of fact, we have a cl*** for these cars, it’s called “Driver Participation Cl***”.

Here is how the AACA Judging Guideline for cars in the "Driver Participation Cl***".

"...vehicle components that have the same appearance as when the vehicle was manufactured and the overall condition of the vehicle in general appears acceptable. The exterior/interior/engine/ch***is components must be period correct per the original manufacturer. The following are exceptions that will not disqualify the vehicle: seat belts, turn signals, stop lights, sealed beam/halogen headlights, radial tires, radio upgrades, electrical upgrades, air conditioning, overdrive system and altered exhausts." To paraphrase it... A DRIVER.

The AACA simply has a “like the factory built it” benchmark when it comes to cl*** judging and our Judging Guidelines give us some leeway as to the definition of “factory built” It’s what we enjoy doing.

Thanks for asking.

 

That's not exactly true, BigPeter. The cars would have been certified by a committee before they were ever accepted on a showfield, just like the race car cl***. The hotrod would have had to been historically significant, meaning from a TV show, magazine, famous builder or owner, etc. The Happy Days truck would be a good example, as everyone here is familiar with it and it was one of the examples shown at Hershey. It is well do***ented and the existance is known from the time it was built. It would have had to been shown without modification or updates from the time period it was certified. The Ricky Nelson '32 roadster would be another. Funny how it will be in the AACA museum soon! The real reason the hotrod cl*** was killed after a friend of the HAMB, was chopped off at the knees in Atlantic City, was entire regions threatened to quit. So it was all about $$. If you want to come here and represent the AACA, posting your credentials, tell the truth.

 

I don't really want to add to this train wreck but I'm curious how the old speedsters are veiwed by the AACA. There was one at Hershey a year or two ago with a banger that was full of speed equipment......cool car. Not trying to stir **** just curious.
Clark

 

NoboD,

I recall the test hotrod cl*** was discontinued due to problems of do***entation. I certainly could be wrong. Regardless, my original statement remains accurate -- the AACA did have a test hotrod cl***, showing the club is open to the idea of including hotrods.

Visit the the AACA museum and see the modified cars on display - this proved the AACA is not rigid on its position about "factory original".

The AACA did made an effort to include hotrods. It simply didnt find the right method in which to do it. IMHO I would not be surprised if the AACA tries to involve hotrods again in the future.