History My Rant

I live for 283's...love 'em...collect 'em and their parts. Nobody wants them and I get 'em for free, or very little money. Dependable little motors that run cool and can be built for less than $2000, and can run circles around a $10,000 flathead. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

did I just say that outloud?

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...sbc-belly-****on-engine-just-a-teaser.712197/

My boring belly ****on ****** 307
(Not "crate" but ****** because it's a inbred mishmash of Chevys red headed stepchildren.)

It runs sooo damn good

 

Yup!
Dependable, cheap, can easily be built to go like stink and parts available (well almost) at the grocery store = SBC

 

Which is why I have a handful of them stashed away. I have a 307 under the bench out in the shop that I plan on putting into something in the next year or so. I've told a couple of "smart" engine guys that it is a stroked 283 and they go nuts over it. Tell them it's 307 and you get the usual "junk" speech. There are a lot of the early SBCs out there you just need to look harder. The 307 I have was given to me and the guy even delivered it to get rid of a junker engine. The '63 283 I have sitting in a rim gets lots of attention with the vintage C4B intake, old dual point Mallory and finned Cal Custom valve covers on it. If I had a nickel for every time someone has asked to buy it I could build a couple of 350s.

 

The thread is about 283/327 engines...not 305/307's. Every time someone here wants to build a period 283/327, invariably someone starts talking about 307's or 305 heads on 283's with hardened valve seats. These little motors deserve respect using their original parts!

why am I ranting?

 

so, what are going to put this nostalgia motor in? post some pics

 

Yea, I'm just having some fun, but seriously, how can you knock an engine that can be made to run better with a paper clip and a damn rubber band?

 

Someplace in this thread, the OP's druthers is a 283 block with 3.25" 327 stroke. Yet he feels it's too expensive or obscure to pull that off. 283 bore with 327 crank is a dirt cheap damn near free POS 307.

 

And "Commies". Don't forget the "Commies". F*cking Communist.

 

I musta missed that post...well, then he needs to have the Guido Bros called on his ***. I will not tolerate 283 blaspheming...
...did I spell that right?

 

The last of the vortec sbc were 2001 - that's it for bone yards. Damn good engine but those latest ones are in bigger commercial trucks that have been ran pretty hard & most are approaching 200k on them if they are still running.
Mexico is still cranking out new sbc engines for aftermarket.
When that LS series came out it sort of backdated and thru everything sbc at that point and up to that 2001 point in time into a group of basic 1955 technology.

 

You kids and your new fangled over head valves....

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I'd be willing to read what you did, I'm not too interested in complaints.

 

Not so much rodent **** as mudball. The thing is, a huge wealth of informal expertise has grown around the SBC. As an idea, as a complex of knowledge, the SBC exists as floating commons like the air we breathe and nobody's private (or more likely corporate) domain. The SBC is closer to an open-source engine than anything the open-source movement could come up with (mainly because the open-source movement has trouble understanding the social nature of stigmergy). That's not to be sneezed at.

Perhaps ironically, all that slightly su****ious social theory ties into the "traditional" aspect of the HAMB. Tradition is a stigmergic process. It works by everyone being free to add their own innovations to an existing body of ac***ulated knowledge that doesn't belong to anyone, without thereby destroying the existing body of knowledge. It is this last aspect that makes people jealous to preserve tradition, and rightly so, but tradition is first and foremost an instrument for making innovation possible.

Bottom line? A lot of fun can be had building a SBC by making use of the ac***ulated knowledge and being creative with it.

 

(I'm starting to think Ned Ludd is a Martian...can't understand a word he says)

 

I don't remember the parts combination but back in the late 1960's my buddies older brother was building SBC's that he said were 301 cubic inch displacement. I think maybe a 327 block with 283 crank ????. I remember riding in a 62 Chevy 2-door Biscayne car that he put one of his engines in. The thing screamed !!

 

3W, you can buy those words for 50 cents

On topic, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. As usual the "crowd" gets goat roped into some m*** acceptable thinking regarding the most iconic engine in OHV V-8 history. As to good sense and 350s, well **** it up and do the baby mouse later as you gain miles and sort gremlins in the new hot rod. There's a reason 350s are used as much as they are. THEY ****IN WORK. High winding Nova story, a racing pal back in the day had a 65 Nova that he raced both at the track and on the street. He drove it to the track and consistantly ripped off low mid 10sec times. It was a 355 with Chevy heads on it and a baby roller cam. Sounded great at the big end too, screaming LOUD at the opponents. He sprayed it later and went well into the 9s with a gear change. So, if this "hot rod thing" is about going fast, any questions? Anything can be dressed in the proper look if you have the archives to search for it and the will to chase it down. You can get a very small damper from BHJ or one of many other SFI spec damper suppliers which solves that issue too. If this "hot rod thing" is about creativity as well, any questions?

 

I hear what you're saying Highlander, but the bottom line is we are all here because we like traditional pre-65 engines...305/307/350's/aluminum heads, etc. aren't traditional, no matter how you disguise them to look earlier.

 

Less drama, fewer rants, more traditional cars (and powerplants); viva la HAMB!