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Mystery A - Help ID this suckuh

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jeem, Sep 9, 2006.

  1. SOMEBODY has to have more/better pics of this thing?! Jeem, you didnt snap any at the GNRS?
     
  2. chaddilac
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    Yep it's a 28-9 fordor cowl, I've got one in my stash with the side vent on it as well!

    Can get pics if you need em?
     
  3. NoSurf
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    Wow. I didn't realize all the interest in this lil hotrod. We were standing right next to it at the long course starting line Monday morning on the Salt. The owner got in and drove off while we were there. Nice guy. Very cool car.
     
  4. 51 mercules
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    The 53 has been done for awhile(nice car).Kitchen also belongs to the 200 mph club.
     
  5. miller 35
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    It's is a 30 or 31, looks just almost like my 31 chevy 2dr coach, same color and everything, but i'm sure its not a 28 or 29.
    Miller 35
     
  6. Stovebolt
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    I always thought it was a Briggs bodied 29.
     
  7. I agree with Bruce and Neal but from what I can the cowl top is a Hybrid to make the later parts flow into the 28/9 nose. Very cool ride.
     
  8. sawzall
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    the car was in R&C in 1991 and were still talking about it.. I'd say it was worth it..

    I remember reading the article as well.. as a kid.. such a cool car..
     
  9. Standard32
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    Here is a coupe I found a while back with the same kinda cowl.

    I didn’t know what to make of it… I told “manyolcars” about it, and I think he said that it’s actually a 29. Some of them were like that.

    I can’t remember if he said it was something to do with the maker of the body, or if it was just something that was done late in the year?

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  10. Royalshifter
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    Briggs and Murrey 4 door cowls.......by the way Oldrodkid do you have anymore picks of that body.
     
  11. Anyone have this article to scan!?
     
  12. Standard32
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    Here ya go… It was rough, but I tried to make a deal on it and save it. I made the guy an offer on it. He said he’d think about it. So, a week later he told me “I’ve been thinking about it…and, if you still want it, it‘s yours. Let me know when you wanna come get it.”

    The day I was supposed to go get it, he told me that he decided he didn’t want to sell it any more.

    But, turns out what actually happened was…someone else found out about it and offered him more than I’d offered.

    So, that guy bought it, and chopped the top real quick and rough… to resell it as a “rat rod.” :(

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  13. Jeem
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    No, I didn't take any....dagnabbit. I just stood and gazed upon it's coolness.
     
  14. buikwag
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    Heres some more pics I found. Some one else took these at El Mirage recently. I've known Jim for many years, his roadster on the street with Hilborn fuel injection was a common sight around Berdoo.
     

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  15. Thanks for the additional pictures! Did I read this thing had inline power?
     
  16. buikwag
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    I believe it has a V6 for power.
     
  17. GreenMtnBoy
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    Timeless and very cool.
     
  18. need louvers ?
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    No real mystery, you guys hit it along time ago. It's a 28-29 tudor body with a 28-29 fordoor cowl. Jeem haven't you ever seen the the cowl in the back at ElPollacko's? Many cool things about the car but what got me to strike up a conversation with Jim years ago was the front wheels. The rear are sure 'nuff halibrands but the front are actually Merc and mopar smoothies that came on some of their mid seventies big cars. they always had wierd turbine shaped plastic covers over the centers. Jim said he put them in a lathe and reshaped the outer lips to match the halibrand rears. The article you refer to had to have been in Hot Rod Mechanix, because I have a complete set of both Rod & custom and American Rodder, and its not to be found in either as a feature car. As a side note one of the funniest thing I think I have ever seen was about ten years ago at L.A. Roadster show when Jim had a "tag sale" to sell off parts of his original lakes roadster before it's update as shown earlier in these posts. By the end of the weekend every part of the car except the body had a SOLD TO tag with a name on it.
     
  19. hahahahahhahaha awesome! I love this forum! nothing gets by!:D
    This teaches me a lot actually, a lot of times, I see the car and just see how cool it looks, then someone on here points out details, some good, some bad, but I learn from all of it. I learn to appreciate and notice the finer details of the rides.
     
  20. Jeem
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    Louv'rKing, I don't think this IS a tudor 28-9 body with a 28-9 fordor cowl, it's a 30-1 body AND cowl with a 28-9 grille shell, at least that's what I'm thinkin'..... Check the extra rib around the bottom edge of the beltline. The 28-9 does not have that, schekk the pix.
     

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  21. weez
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    Jeem- the Briggs cowl looks 30-31ish, but has a 28-29 firewall, so it tucks in faster, I never saw one before about 5 years ago, and I didn't know what I was looking at! My buddy Michael Ahrens in Oz built a *****in tudor '31 a few years back influenced by that blue sedan yer talking about, he might know what mag it was in.
     
  22. dorf
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    didnt make mercurys untill 39
     
  23. OK, we can find and ID 50 year old customs and rods but cant get the guy that owns this thing online?
     
  24. No ****.
     
  25. Jeem
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    Ah-ha, definitely a new one for me. At the end of the day, this is still just a cool hot rod!


    Hahaha, didn't think you'd let that slide....
     
  26. Agreed, that car has STANCE.
     
  27. I met the owner of this car in a bar one night. Quite an interesting fellow. He has been invited to join us on the HAMB, and hopefully he will. He had just coasted his 1928 Mercury down out of the mountains when the engine quit at 4000 feet elevation and was able to coast 25 miles to the parking lot of the bar, which was his destination, anyway.
    He told me that his father had met a Mercury Design Studio engineer and allowed Jim access to the studio where he found pieces of the secret 1928 Mercury Torpedo Salon which due to the Depression never made it to production. However, there were still pieces of the original concept prototype car stored outside the studio in an alley. The pieces were hauled home and work started on what was to become one of the most talked-about cars of its generation. Take a look . . .
     

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  28. Stan Back
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    Here are a few facts . . .

    Al Simon ch***is.
    19 or so years old.
    28-29 Briggs (or Murray) 4-door cowl. From what I know, Ford did not make the 4-door bodies those years. Made the coupes, roadsters and 2-doors. It has, and uses, a stock 28-29 tank under the cowl as that is how the originals were made.
    30-31 2-door body which matches the cowl lines.
    Rootlieb (Ger. for "won't fit") hood with the hood sides extended to the frame. The hood tops have the same character line.
    231" Buick V-6 -- not fast but reliable.
    The front wheels are 14" Lincoln Versailles (or Mercury Monarchs) with the plastic hubcap removed, the holes filled and the wheel weight outside lip ground off with a disc grinder. Nothing machined on them. The rear wheels are only 4 1/2 -- they'r front wheels off an Indy roadster. the wider back wheels would be more ideal, but you use what you got.

    Stan Back
     
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  29. Thanks for finally chiming in here. ;)
     
  30. Jeem
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    Uhhhhh, yeah, o.k.....
    Thanks for the pics by the way.

    Awesome.
     
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