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Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Moriarity, Feb 21, 2023.

  1. gimpyshotrods
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    The wagons and wagonesque models had no dip. That would be a viable donor if one wanted to edit that feature out.
     
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  2. Yeah, I know. I was responding to Tim saying that 55 dip looked more subtle.
     
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  3. Hate for customs from “hot rodders”?….. lol
    All hot rods are customs
    Not all customs are hot rods :)
     
  4. Johnny Gee
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    Not true. I like customs, just not all of them. Just like not all hot rods appeal to me.
     
  5. Yep. But both are customs.
    Can’t build a hot rod without “customizing” it.

    but, for me, a custom really isn’t meant to improve something the factory built, but an attempt to build something the factory didn’t.
     
  6. seb fontana
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    At times a hit or miss
     
  7. Squablow
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    The one pic from the rear should show the passenger side clock bezel "bump" on the dash if this was a '55 with '57 quarters, you can see through the windshield. And keep in mind, the rear wheel openings are not '55 either, so it's not just '57 style fins added on.

    For those reasons, I think this is a '57 with (what started as) '55 front fenders on it. Neat old pictures for sure.
     
  8. guthriesmith
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    I like customs and the car has a familiar feel to me. Wondering if is in one of my little books but can’t look right now since I’m in Indy instead of home.
     
  9. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    55 and 56 front clips will interchange with each other but the cowl on a 57 is way different. would be a lot of work to mate a 55 clip to a 57 cowl, I would suspect it is a 55 with 57 wagon quarters grafted on. a lot less fab work. I have a feeling it is an A Brothers/ Bailon inspired home build. It has that homebuilt clunky kind of feel to it. I love customs but we have to admit they all weren't flawlessly executed. lol Larry
     
  10. To me, it actually looks like modified 55-56 dash, like the Jim Seaton '55
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  11. Roothawg
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    It looks unfinished to me. I wonder if the car was ever finished?
     
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  12. Moriarity
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    good question... I think I have seen a picture of it before but I can't be sure
     
  13. 57Fury440
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    As a Mopar guy, I don't know that much about tri-five Chevvies. I do like it though it looks to be unfinished in the photos. It has 1957 Fury hubcaps on it which are not that easy to find today.
     
  14. lippy
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    Sooo it has 14 inch wheels like a Fury right? So it may be a 57 chevy. Lippy
     
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  15. ...or maybe they just put 14"wheels on it, like so many have and still do.
     
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  16. rudestude
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    Looks like a 57 dash, just reading quickly through it's starting to sound like a Johnny Cash song.
     
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  17. SS327
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    I’m thinking that car may have ended up being purple at one time. It looks very familiar.
     
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  18. theHIGHLANDER
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    I'd bet a coffee those are MI plates, and early 60s at that. Might help target the thing. Style? Well I don't like sushi either. There was a time around Motown when restraint was a sin. If some was good then too much was perfect. If I had to predict something I'd say it might have had some elements sacrificed on the altar of Wattufaq. The backgrounds don't look active enough to be a A-Bros picture. 'Rama this weekend, some of you stray beatniks might get some urban legend info opened up and get closer.
     
  19. Budget36
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    Hey Mark, isn’t that a similar treatment to your car? Astoria? You have so many I forget the names.
    But just a question, the kinda rear end pic looks like a gap between the trunk and the rest of it, and from the picture, I didn’t see lights in the fins, is the gap I’m seeing for lights?
    Anyways, hope you track down the origin of it.
     
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  20. Moriarity
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    yeah, It isn't the Astorian. I am sure of that. I may have to get a pile of old magazines out and start digging astorian.jpg astorian2.JPG
     
  21. Budget36
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    What are your thoughts of the rear view picture? Maybe I’m just seeing something that isn’t there?
     
  22. Moriarity
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    really hard to say, maybe some sort of wrap around tail light that goes into the trunk lid and into the quarters... sure is sliced up back there....

    55572.jpeg
     
  23. Budget36
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    I wonder if it is unfinished? Not like any of my projects have never been completed;)
     
  24. I did a little work on cleaning these up for you. Moriarity, I believe you are correwct on the tail light situation. This is what it looks like to me.
    From these photos, I am seeing a bent(?) side pipe, and definitely a 55 front clip (not the trim holes on front edge of hood). I highlighted (in lt blue) the dash outline and the rear light situation .It appears to have louvers behing the rear wheel openings as well. hope these help!
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  25. Moriarity
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    cool, thanks man. it looks also like the hood is pancaked. I don't see a gap along the fender there. I wonder if this could have been a Bill Hines car, he was in Michigan back then and that lower grille work looks kinda like some of his stuff....
     
  26. Moriarity
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    I am surprised that @Sancho has not figured it out yet
     
  27. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    Bill Hines early days were Detroit until he relocated to Barris shop.
    It could be the work an unknown builder at the time (such as Dick Dean) or an amateur builder mimicking the early Detroit style (A Bros, etc.)
    Agree on it being a Michigan plate as their plates had "Water Wonderland" which ran across the entire plate bottom through 1964. It's a cold climate for sure, trees are bare and their looks to be a bit of snow on the ground.
    The car is an odd duck but fascinating. Hope more info comes forward.
     
  28. That area is so blurry/damaged that it is really hard to tell, but likely is. I feel like I have seen that rear fin to trunk treatment before, but I can't recall...
     
  29. X-cpe
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    They will bolt on (At least they did on our stock car) but the bottom of the front fenders are different where they meet the rockers. 56 has a smooth roll under whereas the 55 is more squared off and has a small outward bead on the lower edge.
     
  30. s55mercury66
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    Are there some taillights in there? Maybe something from a '60's Buick?
     
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