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Navarro's O streamliner record. Any half V8 Engine details?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kevin Lee, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. Kevin Lee
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    Just thinking about Barney Navarro's 1950 record. Any particulars regarding how he blocked off four cylinders to run that class? What cylinders would you run? I assume that record is long gone by now - but would half a V8 (Flathead) be eligible for HOP UP's 100mph club?
     
  2. Tuck
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    do the other pistons have to be "dead", could'nt you use them to supercharge the other 4? [​IMG]
     
  3. Kevin Lee
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    Oh, don't think I haven't already thought of that. Reed valves, radically trimmed down skirts, drilled out "T-man" piston rods, I just wonder if you could reduce the weight and friction enough to make it a benefit... Bruce L. had some interesting things to say about this. I'll dig them up Monday, I'm out for the weekend.
     
  4. Remember Fred Larsen (Mooneyes Fame) set a record with a half V8 which I think put the his car into a 124 cu. in. class for Bonneville back in the late to early 60's.
     
  5. racer5c
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    A guy named Ron Hottels from around Milwaukee buit engines called Sesco's which were chevy and ford v-8s cut in half made into inline 4 cylinders for Midgets in the 70's Their have also been quite a few v-4's made for Midget racing most notably by SCAT in Redondo Beach CA. I think he sold the rights to his V-4 to Arlen Ness to use for Motorcycles.
     
  6. Tackett
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    I saw some of those V-4's in off-road cars afew years ago at the Baja 100.
     
  7. Unkl Ian
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    An external blower would be more efficient.
    And you could adjust boost levels by changing pulley sizes.
    The Eaton blowers used on latemodels are very compact,and probably very efficient.
     
  8. metalshapes
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    It is still an interesting idea.
    You could use the outside 2 cylinders of one bank and the inside 2 of the other, to keep the pulses even.
    Being a 4 stroke you would have 2 induction strokes on a dead cylinder for every induction stroke on a live one.
    Has this ever been tried before?
    Would such an engine need special balancing?
    Or would it be OK if you would keep all 8 pistons the same?
     
  9. laverda
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    The latest Street Rodder has a section featuring 4 salt flat cars. One runs the half V8 with a turbo. The 'power' side has a traditional valve cover and the 'blocked' side is a flat head head! Gets some double takes! Let me know if you would like me to scan and post.

    Later,
    papa al
     
  10. [ QUOTE ]
    A guy named Ron Hottels from around Milwaukee buit engines called Sesco's which were chevy and ford v-8s cut in half made into inline 4 cylinders for Midgets in the 70's Their have also been quite a few v-4's made for Midget racing most notably by SCAT in Redondo Beach CA. I think he sold the rights to his V-4 to Arlen Ness to use for Motorcycles.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I worked with Ron on his Half V8's and his V8 Suzuki midget racers!!! [​IMG]

    I had the priveledge to work the pits for Mel Kenyon and Greg Nelson! Although Stan Fox didn't run a Sesco we worked on his cars and he loved test driving the Sesco's any chance that he would get! [​IMG]

    Rons affordable creations were designed and built in his basement of his house in Hubertus Wisconsin and knocked Offenhauser out of the competitive ranks with its inexpensive horsepower! [​IMG]

    I believe he did sell the rights..., but I don't know to who??? [​IMG]

    Mark
     

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