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Need help ! Forced to buy econ car- Focus or cavalier?

Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions' started by Chris Wiehle, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. Chris Wiehle
    Joined: Oct 2, 2003
    Posts: 250

    Chris Wiehle
    Member
    from Byron , IL

    I know this is not relly HAMB related but I am moving and will have a 45 min commute. I have never owned a economy car. I am a chevvy guy by heart and trade but have heard better things about the focus. Anybody on the HAMB have any advice for me.
    Chris
     
  2. prime mover
    Joined: Dec 6, 2002
    Posts: 827

    prime mover
    Member

    I'd buy a focus, I have driven*******s for the last couple years.
     
  3. El Caballo
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 6,332

    El Caballo
    Member
    from Houston TX

    I had a Focus for 2.5 years, handles great, I had the Z-tech which ran real well. Upsized to a Suburban.
     
  4. AKATIREGUY
    Joined: May 17, 2004
    Posts: 128

    AKATIREGUY
    Member

    Here's the inside scoop on the Focus. I work at Capistrano Ford, in the service department. The focus is a great car but has its flaws in the life of the brakes. Ford says that problem has been resolved, still waiting to see results. Brakes last 12-15k and the rotors are worn to min thickness with every, yes EVERY, brake job. If buying new, ask to purchase the maintenance and wear protection plan. Make sure you let them know you want the plan that covers brake pads. Brakes and rotors run about 495.00 EVERY 12-15K. A 900.00 maintenance plan is like paying for two brake jobs and you get a third free plus all oil changes, tire rotation, trans service, etc.... on a financed policy. Even with this the Focus is the better choice. I'm not just saying that cuz I work at Ford. Wife drives a Nissan and I drive the 55 Olds.
     
  5. Chris Wiehle
    Joined: Oct 2, 2003
    Posts: 250

    Chris Wiehle
    Member
    from Byron , IL

    Holy***** $495 for pads and rotors. Why so much? How much if I did it myself?

    I have read one or two other reviews that mention the brake problem. If that's all i have to worry about I can handle it.

    Thanks guys!
     
  6. Chandler
    Joined: Sep 20, 2004
    Posts: 1,817

    Chandler
    Member
    from Rowlett,TX

    i had a old cavalier. 80's model. that thing was bullet proof. dont know about the new models
     
  7. BELLM
    Joined: Nov 16, 2002
    Posts: 2,590

    BELLM
    Member

    Bought Cavaliers for both daughters as college cars, no problems, ever. Knock on wood as the 2000 has 130K on it and has to last another year. 'course I'm a Chevy guy.
     
  8. TexasHardcore
    Joined: May 30, 2003
    Posts: 5,608

    TexasHardcore
    Member
    from Austin-ish

    Buy a Honda...most********* reliable car I've ever owned.

    130,000 miles on a 1996 hatchback civic.
    street raced EVERY WEEKEND
    Autocrossed monthly
    Driven Daily
    Long trips
    around town
    you name it

    The only parts I replaced were normal (battery, wires, plugs, hoses, belts, tires) and the parts I broke from drag racing.

    34mpg and it ran 14's in the 1/4 mile.
    reliable as hell, more room in the BACK SEAT than my '86 Mustang GT 5.0.

    Both my little brothers and my dad have owned Honda's as daily driver/work commuter vehicles.

    I used to work as a Tech for 2 different Honda dealerships...the only thing we did there was repair damage from customer abuse/wrecks or maintenance. There was NEVER any common problems with any of the cars, it was amazing.

    No problems EVER. I loved that car but I needed a truck.
    I've found another Honda Civic that I might buy as a daily driver if these diesel prices keep going up.

    Just my $.02
     
  9. gregg
    Joined: Feb 28, 2002
    Posts: 397

    gregg
    Member
    from Fulton IL

    Chris, we have a '01 & '04. The '01 has the 2.0 zetec, the '04 has the new 2.3. Both have been trouble-free. They replaced*******s. I'm a mechanic at the local Ford shop. The brakes on the early ones don't last very long. Here in Wheaton we get $245 for frt brakes with new rotors.
     
  10. Chris Wiehle
    Joined: Oct 2, 2003
    Posts: 250

    Chris Wiehle
    Member
    from Byron , IL

    Gregg- Got anything in there with light body damage they need to blow out. Preferrably a stick. under $4500. I'm just waiting to sell my '53 ford or close on my house thenI'll have the money.

    Texas*********- Sounds like that would be the way to go but I have a problem bringing myself to buying Japanese. Yeah yeah, I know half the***** on the focus is probably jap stuff too.
     
  11. Django
    Joined: Nov 15, 2002
    Posts: 10,198

    Django
    Member
    from Chicago

    Chris, my g/f has an early Focus X3. The brake issue is true. Otherwise it is a great car.

    Can the early ones be upgraded to avoid that brake issue? What is involved?
     
  12. Flexicoker
    Joined: Apr 17, 2004
    Posts: 1,416

    Flexicoker
    Member

    ok, since we're on the subject here, any reviews on a '94 nissan altima? just got a lead on one with 100k on the clock. I need a daily driver too.
     
  13. TexasHardcore
    Joined: May 30, 2003
    Posts: 5,608

    TexasHardcore
    Member
    from Austin-ish

    I'm telling you guys...stop being rednecks and buy a frickin Honda...you won't regret it. [​IMG]
     
  14. If I had to buy a little***** car I would buy a Toyota Corolla.Im in the collision industry and have worked on all types of compacts.As far as structure goes they are pretty safe in a "train Wreck".The powertrain also is pretty sound and reliable.I usually hear good satisfaction from customers, they dont their insurance company to total them,which tells me there happy with the reliability of the Corolla.
     
  15. El Caballo
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 6,332

    El Caballo
    Member
    from Houston TX

    Yeah, the brake pads went away too soon on my 2000, went to Midas and didn't have any worries after that. My rotors only needed resurfacing. Sold the car with 77K on the clock and those same brakes. My biggest gripe was the ignition switch that I had to replace.
     
  16. Chris Wiehle
    Joined: Oct 2, 2003
    Posts: 250

    Chris Wiehle
    Member
    from Byron , IL

    [ QUOTE ]
    I'm telling you guys...stop being rednecks and buy a frickin Honda...you won't regret it. [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    What kind of Honda could I get for $3000?
     
  17. sodbuster
    Joined: Oct 15, 2001
    Posts: 5,065

    sodbuster
    Member
    from Kansas

    Yep, I had the wifes car sideway's in the front of the driveway while covering the driveway with sealer and then the key would not work. We have a locksmith right down the street from us who can do anything (he has been in business since 54') and he said the ford ignition's are junk. So he came out and fixed $50 later.
     
  18. Von Scott
    Joined: Sep 24, 2004
    Posts: 337

    Von Scott
    Member
    from fresno,ca

    How the hell did I go from reading about modifieds to reading about econoboxes. This is still the HAMB right? [​IMG]
     
  19. side_valve
    Joined: Sep 22, 2002
    Posts: 834

    side_valve
    Alliance Vendor

    I have a '01 ZX3 for my 35 minute commute. It's got 67k on it and never had a brake job - It's a manual so I use that to slow down plus it's more fun to drive. I'm happy with it.
     
  20. floyd schrammeck
    Joined: Nov 13, 2004
    Posts: 1

    floyd schrammeck

    Hello. I buy wrecked cars, and a cavalier is worth about 100. wrecked , focus $ 600-up. But if chevy person the saturn is better i think still $200. parts interchange.
    Hondas are the best, worth about 10 times wrecked what a domestic worth Just look at resale, tells u everything.
    I have a 92 integra gsr 204,ooo still turns 8000 rpm daily , burns 1 qt oil between changes. faster then most mustangs. gets 30 mpg. enough said thanks for listening
     
  21. GomezGarage
    Joined: Jun 28, 2004
    Posts: 327

    GomezGarage
    Member

    Lets all drive our Metric***** to the next show and see how "cool" you are then.
     
  22. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
    Posts: 6,739

    Bigcheese327
    Member

    Cobalt SS or the Pontiac Solstice.

    Cobalt is the Cavalier replacement, Solstice is a Banshee/Fiero for the 21st Century.

    I'm quite happy with my "M/SA" '93 Ford*******. I just did plugs and wires on it yesterday - 113,000 miles and I was just now replacing the factory installed stuff.
     
  23. Steve Ray
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 697

    Steve Ray
    Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    ...but I have a problem bringing myself to buying Japanese. Yeah yeah, I know half the***** on the focus is probably jap stuff too.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hondas are built in Ohio. In fact most of the "japanese" cars and trucks sold in the US are built here. Ford Focuses are built in Mexico, I believe. Funny that the US companies are moving their production out of the country and the foreign companies are building factories here.

     
  24. Kev Nemo
    Joined: Aug 7, 2004
    Posts: 2,453

    Kev Nemo

    What the collision guy said about Cavs is true- they're worth nothing and have probs after 90k... [​IMG]
     
  25. HonkyTonker
    Joined: Mar 28, 2004
    Posts: 253

    HonkyTonker
    Member
    from Irving, TX

    my woman has a ford focus 2002 ZX somethin.. Runs great, great for taking trips, i'm 6'3. Decent sound, have had no problem with brakes, but the rear drums are starting to squeak. 49k. Never had a brake job yet.. Oh their radios are*****. We have had to replace two indash 6 disk cd players. Thank god for warranties.

    Neal0o

    oh yeah.***** a honda .. buy AMERICAN [​IMG]
     
  26. Munson
    Joined: Dec 27, 2003
    Posts: 198

    Munson
    Member
    from Tempe, AZ

    This guy is fun and has never done me wrong...

    [​IMG]

    Evidence of the normal beating she takes. Just maintenance cost accumulated so far.

    j
     
  27. low springs
    Joined: Jul 10, 2003
    Posts: 2,499

    low springs
    Member
    from Long Beach

    [ QUOTE ]
    If I had to buy a little***** car I would buy a Toyota Corolla.Im in the collision industry and have worked on all types of compacts.As far as structure goes they are pretty safe in a "train Wreck".The powertrain also is pretty sound and reliable.I usually hear good satisfaction from customers, they dont their insurance company to total them,which tells me there happy with the reliability of the Corolla.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    i second that. i've been in the collision field myself for 10+ yrs. toyota is a great car along with hondas. my wife drives a corolla s. i wouldn't buy an american car unless it was from 72 down.

    teaxshardcore, your right a honda is the best bet to go also.

    american cars are basiclly****embled in america. thats why they can say american built. wireing harness built in mexico, some brakets built canada they ship all that back over and****emble it here. don't get me wrong some stuff is built here but not all.
     
  28. retro54
    Joined: Apr 1, 2004
    Posts: 735

    retro54
    Member
    from PA

    I would have to echo an earlier post...WTF?!? mate!... if you want info on jap cars or little ricers, go to an import site... me, if it were me, which it will be in 1.5 years when I get outa college, I'd buy a nice 1960's car like a 65 fairlane or early nova, comet, dart..etc... Something with a reliable, fuel effecient strait 6 and hey, 4 doors are cheap man.... I bet, rather know you can find one of these, lets say 1962 thru 1968 cars in excellent shape, that is rebuilt stuff and the like, with spending 10k or less (my bro picked up a 65 fairlane 500 for 500 bucks, put another 300 in it to pass inspection, and it was a respectable driver for a year, until he got his mustang..haha)...so right there, you are spending less than a new car, have something cool, something genuinely american, something reliable, something you can work on (major plus), something where rotors don't cost you 500 bucks, I can go on all days guys... I mean, I really don't have the age to lecture you guys who have families and stuff being only 22 myself and unattached, but hey, all I know is that my family's first family car was a 63 chevy impala 4dr. with a 283 and auto, and damn man if that didn't get me to preschool and everything else. And for me, the major point is that a car from this time period is reliable and something I can work on, I don't have to take it to a shop and spend the big bucks... hey, I'll shut up now, but it just seemed to me that if you were on this site in the first place you may be of this frame of mind too... just another side of the fence, maybe this will get the thread back on topic...hahahaha.. later guys
     

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