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Hot Rods need help ID Edmunds Valve cover

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Louie, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. Louie
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    bought this valve cover on a whim but not sure what its for,anyone have an idea? Maybe Lincoln?
    second pic is compared to early Olds on top and Y block Ford on bottom
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  2. johnny bondo
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  3. rld14
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    Looks kinda like a Lincoln Y block to me...

    If it is I want em :D
     
  4. johnny bondo
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  5. tommy
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    They are not Studebaker's. Studes are the same size as the early Olds. Weiand actually made one casting for both engines. 4 holes locations for the Stude and the other 2 holes for the Olds These were drilled for Olds but I drilled the Stude holes to use on my Stude.

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  6. johnny bondo
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    some studes were 2 hole tho.....
     
  7. tommy
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    Yeah but they were the same overall size. His look to be larger than the Olds and therefore the Studes.

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    They made a dual quad intake for the Lincoln Y block so they probably are for the Lincoln Y block.
     
  8. titus
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    Marcy's got a set for lincoln yblock, have her measure one.

    jeff
     
  9. trbo355
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    The bolt holes on a Lincoln Y valve cover are exactly 14 inches center to center. Looking at your covers, the holes dont look outboard far enough to me. Not sure what those are.
     
  10. F&J
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    Post 6 referred to 2 bolt Studebaker. If you look at the mystery Edmunds, and count the fins above and below the bolt centerline, it is offset. Just like 2 bolt Stude. Can anyone tell if the bolt spacing looks close? I know Tommy said same size as Olds, but are the 2 bolts the same as 4?

    Edit: I think the pic in post 1 is decieving; it really looks like the same size or close to Olds. The height is throwing it off?

    Here is a pic from hamb:

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  11. Louie
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    thanks guys the measurement from bolt to bolt is 13 1/2. the pics is deceiving F&J the cover is about the same overall length as Olds, looks like maybe Studebaker
     
  12. tommy
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    The Stude outer bolt holes are 13 1/2" CC. They must be for the 60s era 2 bolt Studes as seen on the yellow VCs above Notice they they still had the inner indentations but were not drilled on the later Studes.
     
  13. Louie
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    thanks Tommy
     
  14. HEATHEN
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    A friend has a pair of Edmunds covers for Stude V8s, and they look like yours; however, Eddie must have been ahead of his time in deciding to eliminate two of the holddowns, since he sold out in late 1955, well before Studebaker did the same thing with the factory covers.
     
  15. Louie
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    I was just thinking the same thing Heathen
     
  16. F&J
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    We are all thinking the same; The old style logo in cursive on those, it must date to early to maybe mid 50s, but I think early 50s. So, he must have eliminated the holes.

    edit; when did Stude make the first V8?
     
  17. HEATHEN
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    1951, a whopping 232 cubic inch 120 horsepower firebreather. Honestly, you've got to hand it to them--they were the first independent to come up with an OHV V8, totally of their own design. Yeah, I know that it has similarities to a 331 Cadillac but, other than the rocker arms and cobbling the intake manifold, I don't know of anything that swaps over. The external dimensions and overall weight were so close to a Caddy that "Studillacs" became very popular in the '50s.
     
  18. tommy
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    That is exactly why I didn't think they were Stude at first but I did not know the dates. I didn't think Edmunds was still selling VCs when Stude went to 2 bolt covers in the 60s. Interesting.

    My "convertible" valve covers were listed in the 1952 Weiand catalog.
     
  19. HEATHEN
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    I've got a pair of them as well. I used to wonder about the four extra indentations until an oldtimer filled me in on their purpose---one of the few times when something someone told me about vintage speed equipment wasn't bullshit!
     

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