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Need help to I.D. brakes Bendix, but from what?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by voneville, Mar 14, 2006.

  1. voneville
    Joined: Feb 14, 2006
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    voneville
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    from San Diego

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    To make a short story long I ordered these from a guy on ebay who sold them as "Juice Brakes" from a 60's hot rod he was parting out. Well, being impulsive and worried someone would outbid me I paid the "buy it now" (Or grab your ankles, it's your turn in the barrel price). They came with the spindles, so I figured for $200 bucks I couldn't lose, right? Well 2 months later, they finally arrived. I'm from California, so I'm not used to rust. I didn't even know brake shoes could rust and form a bond with the drums! But the backing plates look useable. I'm going to have to replace some of the stuff that make them work though, and I have no idea what these are from. My suspision is Ford F1 or F100. They're 11" from I.D. of the drum and have 2" brake shoes. The pocket for the spindle is not deeply recessed (so I think that rules out late 39-38 lincoln?), and they have what I am pretty sure are ford 42-48 spindles. It doesn't look like anything was modified to make this set up work.

    I did the search thing (for about an hour!) and ended up more confused then when I started. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I have 1,000,000 million times more respect for guys or gals that build cars from junk yard finds and swap meet scores since starting this project. Maybe those street rod guys had the right idea after all? Nahhh, this is too much fun ;) Anyone know how long a tetnis shot is good for!?
     
  2. ol fueler
    Joined: Oct 6, 2005
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    OH !!!-------You wanted MORE help!!

    OK I think you are correct in guessing they are F100 brakes. Will the Drum turn at all?
    If you can turn it it's not rusted in place --must likely the drum is grooved so deep that it won't slip over the shoes --Adjust the brakes till it will .
     
  3. the are f-1's , really the same as f-100....backing plate , wheel cylinders , shoes the same..drums are different. yes , spindles are `42-`48
     
  4. tommy
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    FWIW if you can still turn the drums, I don't think you got screwed that bad. It seems that early spindles go for a 100 bucks minimum. The wholesale junk yard price for drums is 25 bucks minimum. No it's not a screamin' deal but you didn't really get hosed. IMHO. I have them on my P/U and they are better than the early Ford brakes. I really like 'em.

    This article will give you the part numbers and what needs to be done when you replace the bearings and seal.

    The only draw backs for me are that you can't run early Ford wires without huge adapters and they don't have that classic T shaped recess in the backing plates.

    Cut the heads off the hold down pins and pull the whole mess off. Save the shoes for cores. You might need to send them out to get them relined. Wheel cylinders are available from good parts houses without paying the "classic parts" house prices.
     
  5. voneville
    Joined: Feb 14, 2006
    Posts: 30

    voneville
    Member
    from San Diego

    Cool, thanks for all the input guys! It's much appreciated. So I'm guessin that taking the spindle off the backing plate was the wrong way to go about it (The drum that's stuck to the shoes). I'm trying to get the anchor pin(?) (The big 15/16 nut) off.
     
  6. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
    Posts: 8,406

    Flat Ernie
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    Another alternative is a torch through the adjusting hole to cut the star adjuster...pulling the anchor pin may not help...
     

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