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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hellfish, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. Hellfish
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    hmmmm... you guys have given me a LOT to think about. I could REALLY lowball him and take my chances with the engine/****** or just walk away.
     
  2. wayfarer
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    Why don't you buy the olds in the cl***ifieds? Rebuilt engine, new brakes. Sounds like a daily driver to me.
     
  3. 40StudeDude
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    Yeah, just saw that Olds (Thom's Olds For sale) and hurried over here to tell you the same thing...it's even on your side of the country!
    R-
     
  4. Hellfish
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    Yeah, Thom is my friend and I know the owner of the Olds. It's nice and would be a lot easier, but it's just not my thing.
     
  5. Hellfish
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    [ QUOTE ]
    oh, yeah, and those 413s are junk, toss that the trash, and put in a small chevy. four-thirteen

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    I thought you liked 413s, Four-Thirteen!!
    How would a SBC do in a car that big? I think it's around 4000 lbs. If I put in a SBC, would the Chrysler trans bolt up, or would I have to swap that, too? If I had to swap it, what would I do about the push puttons? I hope these aren't dumb questions, but I'm trying to consider everything.

    Thanks,
    Joe
     
  6. Machinos
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    A 383 might bolt up, the lowest-end 300 for that year came with one.
     
  7. leadsled1953
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    if you get it cheap its still a project.brake drums and other parts are very hard to find,you will have to go disc if your brakes are shot.most of these beasts have a baby jar sized master cylinder.[say oh God its not stopping]i see newports going for anywheres from a coulple hundred to around 3 grand.so you may have to stock up on parts cars.i have 3 1966 newports.one i drive in the summer and two which are sitting cause i havent hade time to start working on them.
     
  8. Mutt
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    I do believe he was tuggin' your leg, Hellfish. The only part that's hard to find for a 413 is pistons. Everything else is interchangable. The transmission rebuild kits are mostly interchangable, as he said. The little things are the hard to find parts. The rust is the most serious part on a unibody. The key to your decision is whether you have to work on it to make it a daily driver, or whether it's a daily driver that may need some work down the road. I didn't want to scare you away from it, just make you aware of some quirks to the car. By the way, any 361, 383,426, or 440 will bolt in.
     
  9. leadsled1953
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    from Medford NJ

    try www.moparts.com they have a on line swap meet.you will look in the c body section for newports.also there is a c body club on yahoo.lot of good mopar people.they can give you the info you need
     
  10. Django
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    This thread is killing me! [​IMG] hahaha, "forget the mopar, buy a chevy" and "why don't you buy that Olds?" from multiple people. He won't listen to me! [​IMG] The list of cars he's p***ed on would be longer than this whole thread!

    Hugs and Kisses Hellfish. [​IMG]
     
  11. 40StudeDude
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    So,what? He's making fools out of all of us?
    R-
     
  12. Django
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    No, not at all, he's just picky and I think at this point genuinely wants a Mopar. Particularly after p***ing on Ford after chevy after ford after chevy... It would be the first Mopar in the club or in our circle of friends. I've never even laid a wrench on a Mopar myself. I'm very loyal to Ford and Chevy (and GM in general)
     
  13. 40StudeDude
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    Got that package, Chad...they looked better than I hoped...however, sending it Fed-X probably cost more than I sent...let me know and I'll send more $$$.
    R-
     
  14. Hellfish
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    no, I'm not making fools out of anyone!! Django knows that I'm REALLY selective about the cars I like. He's annoyed because I p*** on 4 doors and cars that don't interest me all the time. [​IMG] I guess I'm a car snob. I want a stylish driver and that 63 Olds just doesn't do it for me. It is a fine car though.
     
  15. 40StudeDude
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    Nothing wrong with holding out for what you really want...4-doors don't do much for me either...and the Olds is a '62...rare one...at least out here.
    R-
     
  16. Django
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    Don't sweat it Roger, Fed Ex ground is cheap.

    [​IMG] No shame in p***ing up 4 doors if that's not what you want. But we're running out of good candidates for a dependable daily driver...
     
  17. Hellfish
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    dependable?! now why did you have to bring that up?! [​IMG]

    4 doors are fine, but just not for me. Can you tell that Django and I have been over this before?

    BTW, a friend of mine did a disc brake conversion on his 61 Newport and it was around $800. According to the owner of the 300, a later 60s dual chamber MOPAR master cylinder will bolt right in.
     
  18. stealthcruiser
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    try on a set of 76 dodge aspen spindles rotors and calipers on the 62 if you get it.thats what i have for my 58 dodge wagon.
    have'nt researched bigger discs yet,but have done a trial fit of all hard parts.
    or if ya' buy it,i got a 62 newport parts car.
    no eng. or ****** or instrument panel(a keeper),but it gots brake drums, rear axle,window regulators and what not.
    we'll keep your *** riding somehow,
    even if you ain't from georgia!
     
  19. as far as brake parts, mopar was a bit odd in those years up until '63. after everybody else started leasing the patent from bendix for thier servo-action brakes, mopar held out trying to save some money. the result was a few goofy setups, dual leading shoes with two cylinders per wheel, and stuff like that. they finally converted over in '62 on the A and B body cars. the chryslers and imps kept the same setup until '63. so, brake parts might be hard to find for '62 chryslers. if it's an issue, you could grab the backing plates off a '63 chrysler, and then the stuff all the way through the 70s would fit, plus you would get the self adjusting bendx servo action brakes. i've got big *** 11" imp brakes with the servo action on my A, in hopes that they will be enough....

    any post '61 big block will bolt right in, 361, 440 and everything in between. a '58-61 big block will work too, but you have to swap cranks to the newer, post '61 style.

    $3000 is way too much for that car. I'd go $500, if it looks like the motor will run. it needs brakes all the way through, it needs major rust repair to make it drivable. wiring, might need a gas tank, fuel pump, carb rebuild, ignition stuff, all sorts of stuff could be bad on a non-running car. I paid $400 for the '64 chrysler i got the motor for my A out of, as a complete 2 door. sold everything off of it for about $500, and got the motor, ****** and rear. chryslers are not worth a lot of money, and never will be.

    the big mopar website swap meet page

    I lost the article i wrote on how to fix your mopar brakes a few years ago, but there are a few options for upgrades, a disk brake kit from one of those guys that advertises in the mopar mags, factory later model parts swap, or upgrade the drums. four-thirteen
     
  20. Mel
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    [ QUOTE ]
    dependable?! now why did you have to bring that up?!

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    damn it! if we were talking dependable, then it won't come cheap with an old car, especially a mopar with a big block. better buy a late model... [​IMG]

    (don't do it! stick with the mopar brother!)
     

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