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Need Schiefer Flywheel Identification

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by modifieddriver, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. I bought a nice Schiefer aluminum flywheel. I thought it was a Chevy. Ain't so. I need help to ID this thing before I dispose of it.

    Crankshaft bolt pattern is 6 bolts on a 3.25" bolt circle. Center hole is 2.080". 168 teeth on ring gear. Bronze clutch disc contact surface is 10 1/8" dia., so I guess that means it takes a 10" clutch disc. Overall wheel diameter, less ring gear, is 13 7/16". In cluding ring gear it's about 14 3/16" dia.

    HELP!!!
     

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  2. DE SOTO
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    Most of them have the part number stamped under one of the SCHIEFER embosed names on the back.

    I have a Pontiac one #611
     
  3. squirrel
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    some of the chevy 292 engines used a 3 dowel flywheel similar to the 235,but different. maybe that's what it is? diameter and tooth count matches. bolt holes would be 1/2" instead of 7/16" that other chevys use.
     
  4. Muttley
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    Post a part number if you can find one and I'll check my old Moon catalogs.
     
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  5. squirrel
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    go here and scroll down to V2018 and see if that's it

    different clutch size, which is probably to be expected on a performace flywheel replacing a truck flywheel
     
  6. What exactly makes you say it's not Chevy?
     
  7. There is NO part# on the flywheel. Only a PAT #, and we know that won't do us any good.

    Thanks for the offer to help.
     

  8. This makes sense. I'll check the crank flange on a Chevy 230-292 six.

    Now that I think about it. I asked the seller if it was a Chevy. He said yes, but I never asked specifically if it was a V8.

    That web site catalog has some great reference information. I can get close to the flywheel application using the ring gear dimensions.

    Thanks for the help.
     
  9. Well, it wouldn't fit on a 327 V8 Chevy crank flange.

    But, as Squirrel mentioned, it might be an inline 6 Chevy flywheel.
     
  10. squirrel
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    the 292 was the only one of the late model 6s that used the 3 dowel setup. not the 230/250.

    and from that list I linked to, it's 67-up that use them. I wasn't sure about the year break, but that make sense. I did mess with a couple 292s several years ago, one a 66, one a 68, one of them was normal Chevy and the other had 3 dowels, now that I think of it the 68 was the three dowel one.
     

  11. Squirrel,

    Great tech info. Appreciate the help x 2 !!!!!!

    But ..... will it work on the earlier crank and ya' just use one of the 3 dowel holes? Or am I out to lunch with that thinking?
     
  12. squirrel
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    as I said the bolt holes are 1/2" instead of 7/16" that all the other chevy cranks used, so I would not try it.

    sell it as a 67-up 292 flywheel....
     
  13. mhilton
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    i have 4 schiefer fly wheels i am trying to id . 30-30067, 30-30064 ,30-30075 ,30-40064 wiuld very much like to know what they fit if any one can do this. thanks .mike hilton
     
  14. Y8er
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    I have a chance to buy a couple of NOS Schiefer Flywheels in the original boxes but the description is partially obscured by boxing tape. They show to be for 54-57 Ford.
    One has Model # F454.
    Other has Model #4454.
    Is one for F-100 and the other P***enger?
    See attached pics.
    Thanks for any help! F454.jpg 4454.jpg
     

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  15. sunbeam
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    Count the starter teeth would help
     
  16. jimmy six
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    If you look carefully at the 3 dowel holes they are not equidistant to the mounting holes. My GMC Schiefer has been drilled for three 3/8” dowels.

    The GMC also only fits one way. The 6 holes are not equidistant.
     
  17. ekimneirbo
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    What does the back of the flywheel look like? Is it the same all over, or is there an area that has extra weight for a "Detroit balance" ?
    55-63 6yl 168 teeth 14.096 gear OD Zero Balance
    55-76 V8 168 teeth 14.096 Zero except 400 & 454
    70-76 V8 168 14.096 Detroit 400 & 454
    From a chart I have, I don't see anything else with 168 teeth
     
  18. Y8er
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    Here's pics of both sides of the #F454. I verified the application of #4454 as 54-57 Ford-Merc 292, 312 in an old catalog and bought it. The F454 may be the same but I can't find that Model # in any catalog I've seen.
     
  19. Y8er
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    Oops! Forgot to attach pics of F454-3.jpg F454-2.jpg #F454
     
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  20. Y8er
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    Here's a pic of the 1965 Schiefer 1965-schiefer-clutch-flywheel-catalog_1_5d83e4d2878b8c2d77604a0fa1e7092c.jpg Catalog I found.
     
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