Nevada information for the drag racing crowd

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2>This info popped up on our local hot rod site.

If you're planning to race in Nevada - Las Vegas Raceway for one, but it applies statewide - you need to do some checking or permit buying.

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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=message colSpan=2>I see that show cars are allowed so no probs there, but it does apply to drag racing.

Since Nevada is a tourist oriented state, seems they ought to have thought about this one a bit.

Perhaps skipping events at Las Vegas raceway and staying in Arizona would help.
As would making sure Nevada knows about why some of us are staying home....

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Below information, pasted from the Nevada DMV site.


2009 NEVADA LEGISLATIVE CHANGE NOTIFICATION
With the passage of Assembly Bill (AB) 372, effective July 1, 2009, carriers defined as commercial with a combined gross vehicle weight rating of 10,001 pounds or greater must obtain a 24-hour temporary registration trip permit prior to traveling in or through Nevada.
Vehicles may no longer travel in Nevada to the first available vendor to purchase trip permits. This includes all carriers entering Nevada and then purchasing permits from in-state vendors.
AB372 also contains provisions for administrative fines, which shall be imposed, in addition to any applicable criminal penalties, if a vehicle or combination of vehicles is determined to weigh greater than its registered weight.
If a vehicle is cited, it must be re-registered at its maximum weight, as specified by the vehicle&#8217;s manufacturer. Subsequently, the account will be referred to the Motor Carrier Division&#8217;s Audit Team for the assessment of an appropriate administrative fine.
The administrative fines are as follows:
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First offense, $500;
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Second offense, $1,000;
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Third offense, $1,500; and
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Fourth or subsequent offense, $2,500.
If you have any questions concerning these changes, please contact the Licensing Team of the Motor Carrier Division at (775) 684-4711, option #1.
2009 NEVADA LEGISLATIVE CHANGE NOTIFICATION
Trip Permit Requirements
FAQ&#8217;s
1) What constitutes a &#8220;Commercial Motor Vehicle&#8221;? ANSWER: A
Commercial Motor Vehicle is any vehicle used for business purposes
which exceeds 10,000 lbs. This includes a pickup hauling a trailer
with tools or equipment; a cargo van/truck transporting commodities
that will be sold to consumers; or any other vehicle or combination of
vehicles weighing more than 10,000 lbs and used in a commercial
capacity.
2) I have a commercial vehicle registered in Nevada; do I need to
purchase a permit? ANSWER: No
3) I have a commercial vehicle that is registered through the
International Registration Plan (IRP) and apportioned to travel in
Nevada; do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER: No
4) My vehicle weight rating is over 10,000 lbs, but my vehicle is
used for private recreation, such as hauling a travel trailer or a boat;
do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER: No
5) I am renting a truck to move my household goods; do I need to
purchase a permit? ANSWER: No
6) I am a towing company and register at an unladen weight under
10,000 lbs, but my combined vehicle weight rating exceeds 10,000
lbs; do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER: If your declared
(unladen) weight is less than 10,000 lbs you are not required to get a
permit. However, if your unladen or declared weight is greater than
10,000 lbs, you must get a permit or obtain Nevada registration.
7) I have an exempt plate (Fed, State, local municipalities) do I
need to purchase a permit? ANSWER: NO, however if you have a
registration exemption for a reason other than Fed, State, or Local
Municipalities, you will be required to obtain a permit or obtain
Nevada registration.
I have a commercial vehicle in Nevada that I move
occasionally, but it is not registered; do I need to purchase a permit?
ANSWER: Yes
9) I have a commercial vehicle that is registered through the
International Registration Plan but Nevada is not on the cab card; do
I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER: Yes
10) My vehicle weight rating is over 10,000 lbs and is used to
haul my stock car or horse trailer for income; do I need to purchase a
permit? ANSWER: Yes
11) My vehicle is over 10,000 lbs and is used to haul my classic
car(s) to special events; do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER:
No
12) I am renting a truck to haul items for sale at a swap meet, street
fair, parking lot sale, etc.; do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER:
Yes
13) What is the difference between a gross vehicle weight rating, a
combined gross vehicle weight rating, and the declared weight? ANSWER:
a. The gross vehicle weight rating is specified by the Manufacturer
and is generally denoted on the inside plate of the drivers&#8217; side
door. This is the weight the vehicle and the total contents,
including passengers, can be safely operated.
b. The combined gross vehicle weight rating is the weight rating of
the vehicle and all contents, plus any trailer or other equipment
(vehicle) being pulled/towed by the main vehicle.
c. The declared weight is the maximum combined weight the
registered owner claims the vehicle will be operated at.
i. Example A: A ½ ton pickup truck may have a gross
vehicle weight rating of 6,001 &#8211; 10,000 lbs. This means
the truck and all cargo, including passengers, contained
within the truck itself, cannot exceed 10,000 lbs. This
vehicle could have a declared weight between 6,001 lbs
and 10,000 lbs and would not require a trip permit or
other Nevada registration even if the vehicle is used in
commercial operations. Again, the declared weight is the
maximum weight the vehicle is registered to operate at.
d. Example B: If you haul a trailer, you must add the gross vehicle
weight rating of the trailer (loaded) to the gross vehicle weight
rating of the truck to get the combined gross vehicle weight
rating. If you haul a trailer or other equipment with your
commercial motor vehicle, you must register the vehicle at the combined gross vehicle weight to ensure proper registration
fees are paid. Again, the declared weight is the maximum
weight the vehicle or combination of vehicles is registered to
operate at.
14) What is &#8220;dual registration&#8221;? Answer: If you have a commercial
motor vehicle between 10,001 and 26,000 lbs and conduct business
in two different jurisdictions, you have the option to pay full
registration fees for both jurisdictions and display two license plates,
in lieu of purchasing trip permits or registering the vehicle through the
International Registration Plan. Dual registration must be issued
through the Motor Carrier Division if you are a resident in a state
other than Nevada; all insurance requirements must be met.
If you have any questions concerning these changes, please contact the
Licensing Team of the Motor Carrier Division at (775) 684-4711, option #1.


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C9


Sailing the turquoise canyons of the Arizona desert.
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Times are tough, these folks need the money so they can take more "Fact Finding" trips around the world!!! LOL Just more money grubbin Legislators!!!

 

Isn't that nice. What a bunch of shit, they are passing out there.

 

"1) What constitutes a &#8220;Commercial Motor Vehicle&#8221;? ANSWER: A
Commercial Motor Vehicle is any vehicle used for business purposes
which exceeds 10,000 lbs. This includes a pickup hauling a trailer
with tools or equipment; a cargo van/truck transporting commodities
that will be sold to consumers; or any other vehicle or combination of
vehicles weighing more than 10,000 lbs and used in a commercial
capacity."

"My vehicle weight rating is over 10,000 lbs, but my vehicle is
used for private recreation, such as hauling a travel trailer or a boat;
do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER: No "

"11) My vehicle is over 10,000 lbs and is used to haul my classic
car(s) to special events; do I need to purchase a permit? ANSWER:
No
"

"10) My vehicle weight rating is over 10,000 lbs and is used to
haul my stock car or horse trailer for income; do I need to purchase a
permit? ANSWER: Yes "

I think you are having a bit of an over-reaction C9.

The key words are commercial and income.

So for most hobbyists I'd guess this doesn't apply.

If you are attempting to making income in the lovely state of Nevada, dam right we want a piece of the pie, you're beating up our roads.

 

"Out-of state commercial vehicles with a Combined Gross Vehicle Weight Rating of 10,001 pounds or more are now required to get registration permits. (Fuel permits are not required for vehicles under 26,001 pounds unless the vehicle has three axles.)
All carriers must obtain their permit(s) before entering the state. You may no longer travel to the first available vendor."





Looks like it will apply to most who trailer.

Driving in is another thing, but most who take part in the sport nowadays trailer.

In the Q&A they say a pick up truck hauling a race car or horse trailer if you are doing it for prize money is considered commercial and is required to have a permit. Fine for first offense is $500.


"10) My vehicle weight rating is over 10,000 lbs and is used to
haul my stock car or horse trailer for income; do I need to purchase a
permit? ANSWER: Yes "

Racing in a class that pays cash for a win is considered income in Nevada.


This will affect a lot of Arizona guys that race at Las Vegas Speedway.


The initial posting on our local hot rod site was made by the guy who sets up the Kingman Street Drags and working hard toward getting a local drag strip as well as doing a lot of drag racing himself.

 

They are telling racers that race for prize money that that is income and therfore need the permit, and I think C9 directed this at racers

 

Notice this is also weight RATING, not actual weight. If you have an empty trailer that is rated for 50,000lbs - then you are affected.

 

Nevada has depended on gaming for income and that industry is in a down turn. I recently visited friends in Carson and at Topaz Lake on 395 entering Nevada the speed limit is 55 mph. I was warned of the speed reduction before the trip. They have been enforcing all traffic speed laws vigorously to boost state income. What C9 has posted is for the same purpose.

 

I'm thinking most of the local racers will go south to the Phoenix area.

Two dragstrips down there and the closest one is about 120 miles away which is about the same distance LV Raceway is.

And if you want to gamble, carouse and enjoy the night life, Laughlin is only 33 miles down the hill.


I'm guessing Nevada will lose more money from other tourist oriented sources than it gains from an unkowing drag racer wandering into the state....

 

More information:

http://gassermadness.com/towing.htm


The above page is linked to this page:

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...x?rule_toc=759&section=390.3&section_toc=1738


Nevada seems to have figured it out quite well.
You don't have to go to a casino to lose your ass....

 

Another thing to remember, if you are carrying reportable quantities of hazardous material, IE. Racing gasoline, Alcohol, Nitromethane, NOS, you do have to comply with those regulations as to placarding, CDL, and training.

 

the cost of the temp permit is pretty minimal so i don't see it deterring racers;

Fees for registration are $5 plus 15 cents per mile within the state. Special fuel permits are a flat $30, and applicable over 26,000 lbs or triple axle