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New Excelsior Bias Ply looking RADIALS

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kail, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. Kail
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    http://workshop.search-autoparts.co...-Sport-Radial-at-SEMA/blog/1459304/31710.html

    I stumbled across this when I was at SEMA. I did a search to see if anyone got there hands on any yet and it doesn't seam like its even been brought up here yet... so here they are, Coker tires has came out with the Excelsior Radials

    They looked pretty good, a little bulge to them but not bad, not any more then the rear firestone dirt tracks have.. the tread pattern screamed radial though
    I have to say, I dont run bias because the bragging rights, I run them for the look, and if you can have a radial ride and a bias look then better yet, I would like to see a nice pie crusted sidewall radial though...

    Here is a picture I took
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    Here is the only car I could find with them on...

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  2. flatheadpete
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    Look like a viable option to regular radials on open wheeled cars.....
     
  3. BloodyKnuckles
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    Nice.

    I wish I could understand why the manufacturers won't produce piecrust style and especially in the 15" version.

    We can only hope.



    ******Knuckles
     
  4. Ryan
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    I believe those have been around for a while. They are speed rated... and very expensive. However, I think they look *****in.
     
  5. BrandonB
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    SEMA SPECIAL

    Everyone thought that the non-appearance of several large tire makers at the 2009 SEMA Show would be the big news, but Coker Tire Co. stole the show with a startling new product announcement. “As you know, until now, there has not been a radial whitewall tire with an authentic look for antique and Cl***ic cars and old-school hot rods,” said company president Corkey Coker. “Now, there is one!”
    Coker explained that his new line of Excelsior Tires will be the first to combine modern-day radial construction with the cl***ic appearance that old-car hobbyists demand. And he said that the new tires will come in a variety of sizes to fit everything from ’32 Fords to Duesenbergs.
    Known as the Excelsior Stahl Sport Radial, this type of tire is being made to replace the old bias-ply tires still found on many vintage cars. “So now, hobbyists will be able to enjoy their driving experiences even more,” said Coker. “This steel-belted radial is targeted toward restored vehicles built before World War II, but the wide range of sizes makes it suitable for a long list of applications.”
    Coker revealed that 20 sizes will initially be available with wheel-diameters ranging from 16 to 21 in. “So these tires are versatile, to say the least,” he told Old Cars Weekly. “And while they were designed for restored original cars, the new Stahl Sport Radials will be perfect for a traditional hot rod on which the owner wants the looks of a bias-ply tire combined with the performance of a radial tire.”
    Designed for all-season use, each Stahl Sport Radial tire features a specific speed and load rating. The tires made for 16-in. wheels feature an “H” speed rating of 130 mph, while the 17-in. and larger tires feature an “S” rating of 112 mph. Coker said that, compared to a a car using a bias-ply tire of similar size, handling and ride quality will be greatly improved without losing the cl***ic look.
    Made in the USA, the Excelsior Stahl Sport Radial is DOT-approved, as well as ECE-approved. “They are legal and ready for the highway anywhere you live,” Coker pointed out.

     
  6. 3wLarry
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    wonder what the WWW's look like...
     
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  7. Kail
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    Doubt it thats probably why they elected to use the excelsior name because they are already pricey but people still buy them
     
  8. Winged Avenger II
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    those are intersting tires. problem is, what isn't "pricey" in this economy?
     
  9. I've already been priced out of the bias market, there's no way I'll be able to afford a set of these. This is why there are threads on the HAMB about grinding sidewalls and painting tires with Krylon.

    $150+ each for WWW bias????!!!!
    $200+ each and up and up(the sky's the limit) for radials????!!!!!

    These are only tires, they don't come with a cancer cure.
     
  10. Roothawg
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    Supply and demand my friend.
     
  11. Tudor
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    If people will pay 150+ each for tires that really don't work that well then they'll surely pay 200+ each (you forgot the special tubes, so really 250+ each) for radials that might actually work!

    it's brilliant!
     
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  13. Anderson
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    I really wish I could afford a set. Would like to step up to 17" wires on the hot rod, and these would be the perfect tires for it.
     
  14. hotrodladycrusr
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    Aren't these what Matt AKA WhiskeyRunner has on his '32?
    Driven from Ohio to the LA Roadster show last summer and back.

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  15. Kevin Lee
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    Only a complete **** would think a speed rated tire could look cool on a hot rod.

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  16. cruzr
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    whats the difference between these and the "coker cl***ic radial" they offer. Cuzinbrucie and several others run these and have raved about them. 32gal just bought a set for her roadster ,i hope they perform as everyone said.
     

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  17. I love your car but I absolutely covet your driveway.
     
  18. krylon32
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    I've got the bias Excelsors on my roadster and they about broke the bank, but they are made in Europe and are round. Hope the Radials work out cause my next roadster needs the vintage look but I want radials.
     
  19. ChevyGirlRox
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    They are the bias ply Excelsiors, not radials. The car is now on the second set, great tires!
     
  20. hotrodladycrusr
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    OMG! They sure didn't last long! :eek:
     
  21. ChevyGirlRox
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    Somewhere around 13,000 - 15,000 miles. I think that is great for a dirt track/racing tire. The backs could have even gone longer but when you're changing tires, you're changing tires :D
     
  22. Kail
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    anyone know what the wear ratings are on the firestone bias ply? I haven't seen any ratings on these new radials yet, but that is one thing to think about as well.. if these last longer maybe a heftier price tag wont be so bad.

    and am I the only one that thinks its ironic that we pay more for an inferior product, i understand its a specialty but still..
     
  23. X38
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    Funny, I always thought the Excelsiors were bias rubber that looked like radials! Ah, it's an interesting hobby.
     
  24. ray
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    however there is something very wrong when you wear out the fronts before the rears!
     
  25. Ned Ludd
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    I don't see it on Coker's website yet, nor on any of the Excelsior distributors' sites. I'd like to see what sizes are available.

    Not quite mid-HAMB, but I've been looking for a good, usable driving tyre that presents a late-Vintage sort of bulk in side view but with more modern construction and performance. I'm hooked on modern radials; I wouldn't easily go back even to 70-series radials, though I think there's little percentage in less than 4" of sidewall on real-world roads. A 195/60R19V would have been just the thing for me, but there's no such animal. Closest I've been able to find is 215/55R18H.

    (Correction: I see Goodyear have now got a 215/55R18V.)
     
  26. gnichols
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    Excelsiors were my first choice for a tire, but the expense and low mileage killed that idea. I had planned for narrower than normal rims and larger diameter tires for a vintage race car look. Oh well. But if I had a vintage GP style car, or raced a vintage car, etc. these would just be so perfect.

    Too bad they can't make a harder version for half the price, eh? Finding nothing similar, I went with regular radials. IMHO, paying that much for "the look" and the short service life is just crazy on a car you plan to drive a lot. The deep pocket tire of choice. Gary
     
  27. ventilo
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    The 6.00x16 bias ply Excelsiors on my woodie are "Made in India" and have a severe balancing issue. They were cheap, but I wouldn't buy them again.
    However I must admit I was probably one of the first customers in Europe around ten years ago and their quality might have been improved by now.
     
  28. X38
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    Different Excelsiors.
     
  29. sololobo
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    When I saw these on Krylon 32's roadster I almost fainted they are so spectacular!! As is his whole car!! ~Sololobo~
     
  30. ChevyGirlRox
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    The trip to California chewed them up (especially the awesome California cut grooved concrete :D). We reset the toe when we got out there which helped and then re-aligned it when we got home. They have a little left on them but way too scary to drive in the rain or on back country roads.
     

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