just joined as I read here a lot and found an old post by skips***ch on a hard headliner really helped me to understand how to do one, just wanted to say hello and Thank you skips***ch for your help..... my car doesn't belong as its a 68 and a muscle car.... well..... SUPER muscle car as its 505 cubic inch big block and the addition of a second blower is KrAzY, heres a pic of the headliner and door panels, all made of leather and oooo yeah.... the MOTOR !!!!!!! ......lol....... Thanks again guys..... Eddie