Hi all, new here today. I have done some study of the rules and have a question. I just brought home a 1940 Ford pickup and a 1964 292 CI truck motor. I intend to install the 292 in the truck with the usual accoutrements. Do I post this up in the hot rod section or the custom section. I have a lot of experience on specialty car forums and want to be a good citizen. Also, I will need lots of help. Thanks in advance for any tips you care to give me.
post it in the General forum, which is neither the Hot Rods, nor the Customs forums. it'll be interesting to see how it fits. And how your name works out, here
If your not Hacking out the Front crossmember this would make mounting your motor a walk in the park. Good luck with your project. T
I have been DesertRat for the last 20 years on my car forums. The name was taken when I tried to register so I had to alter it a bit. I do live in the desert----------- Can you tell me where I can buy this kit? I like this, this is the type of help I will be needing for the next couple of years. I will seem a bit needy but if anyone has any Mopar questions I have spent the last 6 years building one.
That is a Hurst product. I don't know if it is still in production but a quick Google will answer that. They do show up here in the Cl***ified section and with the actual part number you can use it to hunt other places like C.R. and E.B. Makes for a bolt in and good motor placement in your Truck. The Wizzard
[QUOTE="DesertRat#1, post: I will seem a bit needy but if anyone has any Mopar questions I have spent the last 6 years building one.[/QUOTE] I know a guy who did that in 7 months or so and went on drag week. But he's kinda squirrely Welcome and keep us updated on your build!
uh, that Hurst mount might work if you were installing a V8, but sure won't do much good on a 292 straight six. I'd be spending some time with a tape measure, before considering using that engine.
O.P. Didn't make that very clear for sure. Me being mostly Ford ***umed Y-Block. G.M. I-6 is a fair guess also. Funny stuff eh? The Wizzard
Sorry, I didn't know about the I-6. Below are a couple photos of the motor I want to put in the 40. To repeat myself, 1964 truck motor, last year of production in North America.
I used to date a lady with a Y-Block powered '40 convertible. She told me they paid a local garage (fixed price) to install the Y-Block and they lost their shirt on the job. Measure twice, cut once. Good luck. Charlie Stephens
So, I have a new question. Has anyone on this forum installed a Y-block in a 1940 or earlier stock frame build? Is there a build thread here somewhere I can look at. My parts pile included a stock frame modified for Mustang 2 front suspension and as near as I can tell a stock 1940 Ford pickup body with many small parts I have not had time to inventory.
Sorry to hear about your M=2 issue. Knowing that now, I will say Stop looking for the Hurst front mount. It won't do you any good, The Rack steering is dead in your way. I just sent a 40 Truck off to a new Friend. It too was M=2. I built him mounts for a Hemi and O.D. Automatic. It was a Basket Case when the deal was made but in the process of Fixin things it got pretty much re ***embled. Lot's to take in when starting with pieces and all the Nutz-n-Boltz all in a bucket. It's really no big deal if you've been around them all your life and if not there's Tons of help here. You've come to the right place for it as long as you don't keep tootn your Horn about the M=2. Eviloution is a strange thing. The Wizzard Here's a photo of said Truck when it first came back to me.
I'm not married to the M-2 conversion, it can be undone. Your right though it is a frame, body and buckets and buckets of parts I like this site and joined the alliance this morning. Searching around I found a post saying the June 56 Hot Rod had this very conversion in it. I ordered the magazine this morning and I am gathering up all the information I can. I'm fortunate in that I have been doing this sort of thing since I was 14 so it doesn't intimidate me. My wife of 52+ years supports me in these endeavors and I have the skillset to do the work myself. I want to start a build thread but haven't figured out yet how to do it but I will keep learning your site and figure it out. My social media presence has only been three sites. Snowwest (snowmobiling) TFFN (My 65 Comet build) and FABO (A-Body Mopar site)
I like a Y block but I do not like a Y block in a pre-54 Ford. There's a lot to overcome. A big pain in the ****... Cadillacs Olds Chevies Hemis Buicks last but not least Flatheads All are "easier" .....intstalls with aftermarket support. Heck with a Y in a early Ford you don't even have factory support. You know how post 53 Ford engine families are.....nothing fits nothing else outside of it's respective engine family, from clutch linkage to motor mounts to transmissions. It's a lot of work....good luck.
A friend of mine had one in years back, but I've lost track of him and the truck, will see if I can find both of them and get back on here. A high school cl***mate also had one years ago, but he's on the wrong side of the gr*** now and the truck's been gone for even longer. But I do remember he had to cut down an oil filter canister to just about 1-2" length and do without an oil filter. I think nowadays that can prolly be remedied with a remote mount filter. Welcome to the HAMB and never again mention that front susp. cause the "trad. police" are everywhere
I have a Y-block in my 28 Ford PU. I made my own side mounts that use Flathead biscuits. If you have a MII already installed and don't want to remove it, set the 292 in there with the stock truck motor mount attached to it and see how it fits. You might just be able to use it. I recommend using a '64 up toploader 4spd if going manual trans. Or get a C4 adapter if going automatic.
You'll do just fine here. I'm not against M=2 and have installed a countless number of them, it's just a Taboo topic on the main boards here. I doubt I'd remove it just because. In fact I didn't when I could have and truth be known I am the one that installed it for my Brother. It also has parallel rear springs under it done right, not Kit ****. Starting a build thread is as easy as opening a new Thread ***led how ever you want it and keeping it on point related to your Truck. The Wizzard
Thanks guys, I wasn't sure at first how I would fit in here but I am starting to feel that its going to work for all of us. This site has more rules than the Mopar site I was/am on and I didn't know the M-2 was a no-no. I am pretty set on using a Y block just because the combo is rare but I am considering using a C-4 to make it a little easier. I still have to clean and inventory what I do have and I am pretty sure the 292 is a good core. I put all my own engines together after the machine work is done and the fab and electrical is cake.
A suggestion..On your thread ***le you might want to put 1940 Ford pickup, or Ford 292 swap, or something similar to gather a larger audience, which will also help for those of us who use the search thread tool long after it has run the first page of postings position. I'm sure you won't be the "new guy" forever. Sounds like a build a lot of us will be interested in. Good luck.
I see I am in the right place-I will be looking at your build thread extensively-Thanks! Thanks dude, I like your avatar I will be studying your build thread as well!
Were it me and thinking going next gen automatic trans I would for sure be doing the Ford AOD, not C-4. Same work, better end results. The Wizzard
Welcome, Desert Rat! Nice project you have there, just concentrate on transmission choice first, the 'physical fitting' of the bell housing to floor, trans case to floor, etc.; If you can score an adapter for a reasonable sum, it will be worth the effort. (love the C4s) My cousin Eddie went to the trouble of 'adapting' a '57 'Y' block into his '53 Ford, using the '53 three speed trans, column shift. That part was a 'bolt-up', obviously. Egad! The front sump interfered with the large pan-type front cross member (where the '53 'center sump' FLATHEAD came out of) and then he and his Dad (my uncle) built front mounts. Oil filter canister had to be cut down, (I fitted it with a remote kit later that year, large circular cast aluminum 'plate' with hoses) and there was the 'issue' of throttle linkage. Eddie and his Dad made up some 'Joe McGee' stuff, 3/16" rods brazed together, wrong spring return...Spring overcame linkage, broke apart on 101. I tactfully obscounded with a '54 p***enger car cross linkage, worked nicely. Like Factory. (WAS 'factory'!) Eddie had three 94s on an Offie manifold, straight linkage. I refitted it with 'pro-link', an early progressive linkage 'kit', sold by Chic Cannon at his speed shop in Santa Clara. First I ever saw of that product, it was 1957. The car was a '53 Mainline four door sedan, brown. Faaast...for those days. A real sleeper. We called it 'the brown bear'...it ran like 'Jack the Bear'. I also helped a young kid install a 292 "Thunder Bird" in a '34 pickup. Yblock engine and 3 speed, Pontiac rear. (popular then) '40 Ford cross steering, hooked '40 column shifter to trans with stock shift rods. Built an engine mount that went to the frame rails, attached to the front timing case. Good swap, very smooth running, shifting. I had a fast '56 Ford at the time, so was 'Y-Block Crazy'!
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