Not sure I am worthy of posting or even reading stuff here. "Traditional" has a different meaning to everyone and each car owner/builder has the freedom to make it his own creation without mockery, right? Looks like there are some cool guys here and a few douchebags but I have enjoyed and benefited from advice given on the "HAMB". My car is a 57 Chevy 150 4 door, flat black, every bit of work done by myself over the last 3 years, engine swap, paint, all new wiring, carpet, dash, gauges, some of which might not be traditional, but it is all mine. Peace