So I was reading about what belongs and does not belong on the hamb as far as traditional hot rods go. So the question is this.... From a traditional rod stand point does a older rod with a late model engine fit the mold? I am curious as I see a lot of people on other sites doing late model Ford 4.6 and Chebbie LS engines. Would that be a no go????
The small block Chevy (350, etc) and Ford (302, etc) engines are mostly acceptable because the same basic engine was used back in the early 60s. The late model mod and LS motors are out of place, they're just too modern, they don't even have distributors.
There are, and you will find subgroups within this large traditional site, having perspectives. I recall innovation as one significant tradition. Those who set records, or upped the ante, always innovated. The best advice found here; build it according to your own purposes. Thanks Jim, I'd not thought of that aspect.
Nice I kind of thought that would be the answer. I am battling with the engine dilemma now. I have a nice 4.6 DOHC cobra engine in my garage from one of my mustangs I sold and was really thinking about tossing that into my truck....but the idea of a nice 390 FE really puts a smile on my face. My biggest issue with the 4.6 is the fuel system I would I have to design and the cost. Even if I could find an inexpensive carbed intake for it I still have a lot of electronics to wire. I am car and computer dork so EFI does not scare me. Thanks for the input !!!!
They make awesome plug and play wiring kits for most EFI engines. A great gas tank mod is to use a new S-10 tank between the rear frame rails. You can get those pretty cheap and may be lucky to get a good fuel pump in the tank. Also it gives you all the connections for the feed line and the return line. Also if you get a tranny that is non computer run that saves your a alot of your wiring harness too. Just my two .02 cents if it is worth anything.
if you intend doing a lot of miles on the truck go fot the modern fuel injected motor reliability and economy at the same time .THE HELL WITH WHAT OTHERS THINK.if you just want to look at the thing stick in the older motor.which is better 5 000 miles at 10 mpg or 10 000 miles at 20 mpg
There are plenty of other forums where you can learn about EFI swaps into older cars. The HAMB isn't really the place for it.
THAT would be an acceptable swap... At least to most people here on the HAMB, simply because it would be so friggin cool On the other hand, a regular 4.6 out of a Crown Vic would raise the fires of hell. In a nutshell, this is a traditional site, and should be reserved for such. But if it's cool or unique, it'll usually be accepted by the masses.
If you use the 4.6 Mod just down play that part of your build because many 4.6 threads have disappeared ...just saying... .
Not looking for that info here. Just stating what I am pondering. I already know how to do it and what I need to do to make it work. I just cannot decide on that or the 390. My preference would be to make the 4.6 carbed for a old school Hemi look.
Just put what you want in there, what will fit your personal needs best, and screw what everyone else thinks. You're the one pushing on the gas pedal. At least you're putting the time and effort into a cool old Ford (no matter WHAT the engine is) instead of a Honda Civic.
Tell everyone that it is a custom or Kustom and real custom car/truck guys never open the hood in public because it ruins the lines of the vehicle. But yes, as the others said those late engines just don't fit in with the Traditional aspect of the vehicles here. If you are one who always has to have the hood open at rod trots or cruise nights it just won't fit in with this group.
Typical newb thinking... Once they get raked over the coals and basted in their own juice, they learn real quick. This is a traditional hot rod site... Period! The masses will accept non traditional stuff if it's cool... Like a cobra DOHC engine in an effie, but it's a fine line. Be carefull! I've seen people get roasted!
First post in this thread asks about what belongs here on the hamb, not what engine he should use or whether or not he should give a shit about what everyone else thinks
heres what i dislike shaved doorhandles especially where trad chrome handles are removed welding up cowl vents permanently excessive roof chops that make the vehicle unusable modern columns that look out of place floor shifters instead of column change bench seats removed /replaced with bucket seats especially in pre 47 vehicles vent windows removed beautiful trad gauge clusters removed/butchered by fitting modern round gauges or digital clusters if ure getting fussy over motors where do yo draw the line hydraulic clutch conversions ,five speed manuals or overdrive autos modern mirrors.there are plenty of ways to ruin your trad vehicles think about it fiberglass cars pretending to be the real thing
Hey all didn't mean to kick the nest I was just wondering as I had seen some of the other post about what belongs and doesn't on the hamb. Yes part of that is the decision on the engine. I like what everyone has to say here and I do appreciate the input. Yes I had asked about what did and did not belong here and it did turn into a thread about the engine. Either way I got some good if not sarcastic insight.
"like a rat rod" Now I know from reading that term is on the Naughty list. LOL Can't we all get along
WTF is up with how these posts get off topic or someone gets there ass chewed out for asking a simple question? You guys get a fucking hard on when someone takes a fordor and makes it into a 5 window, which clearly looked like a R-rod (I do hate the term) then when a FNG ( I know i'm a newbie) asks a question to get steered in the right direction in his build you all get bent. Then someone pops up and says its a fucking rat rod. Try and help the man out instead of knocking him down and out. He has what looks to be an all original F100 that looks to be a survivor. Fuck man if I wanted bullshit like that I'd talk to my Grandma for a few minutes. Shit!
Very nice how you talk with such respect about your Grandmother. My rat rod reference had nothing to do with the OP, and if your Newbie rage would subside, you would re-read and realize that. With such anger towards the HAMB, it's threads and members, this may not be the place for you. When you go on a public forum asking for advice, opinions, hell even facts, you have to be prepared for the full spectrum of answers. You have to be thick skinned enough to sift through it. Slow down and comprehend what you are reading.
I think what I'm saying is, it seems like every other post has someone getting chewed out for something stupid. There seems to be a trend of too many people getting offended at stupid shit like someone wanting help and advice. Just like my grandma who bitches about everyone. My anger is not towards the HAMB, but rather some people seem to turn on others just because they have curiousity about a project then get slammed by the ideas. The reason people come here is for advice and help from some great people. At least I thought so.
You're probably right a 4.6 DOHC cobra engine won't get any love here. But I sure as hell would put it to use. Didn't Lincoln take one to Bonneville, remove the speed limiter, throw on an exhaust, and go like 187 mph?
I think your 4.6 DOHC motor would be pretty sweet in that truck. I don't think it would be too popular around here. The thing that bothers me is when people try to make late-model engines look old. Don't. It's never going to really look the part. Drop that behemoth in there and keep the damn hood closed around the traditional folks. Also, your choice in motor should really stem from what you're going to need/want the truck to do.
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