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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HotRodHon, Aug 20, 2004.

  1. HotRodHon
    Joined: Jun 29, 2004
    Posts: 1,424

    HotRodHon
    Member

    I've only been on the Hamb for a couple of months. I guess that still makes me a newbie. [​IMG] One of the things that I have observed on several occasions is the unnecessary sodimy of a new member who posts something too early in his life on the Hamb. My purpose is not to antagonize the long time members, but to inform them that not all Hambones share in the strict, but unwritten regulations of this bulletin board. [​IMG]

    The general thought is that everyone lurks for awhile before joining. [​IMG] But not all do. I didn’t. I heard about it from Fuel Pump when I bought his car and just joined. I think a lot of people do that. And if you join in this way, you have no knowledge of any pre requirements of the number of posts before trying to sell, or post off topic stuff. You see off topic stuff all over the place and don’t think to look at the number of posts the guy has made who posted them.

    Some Hambones are members of several other boards and just learning about building cars. They probably are aware of the unwritten message board rules. Some Hambones are long time car guys with little or no message board experience. I fall into the latter category. [​IMG] I have been building Hotrods, Kustoms, and performance cars for 30 years. I would like to think I have plenty to offer to the Hamb. I guess I was just lucky. If someone had bashed me in my first few posts, that would have ended it. I would have deleted the link on my computer and never looked back. I’m way to old to try out for the team. The HAMB is an unbelievable resource for the hobby. I would hate to see us lose good members because they don’t follow rules that they are unaware of and are not posted anywhere.

    I think the point I’m trying to make is that we beat people up for breaking rules they don’t even know exist. We pin all the auctions up, why cant we pin up some basic Hamb etiquette. Ryan?

    Sorry for the ramble.

    My two sense [​IMG]
    Flame away! [​IMG]

    Craig
     
  2. Maybe no one messed with you 'cause they are afraid of your pistol packin' lady friend. [​IMG]

    JH
     
  3. lucky_1974
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 1,068

    lucky_1974
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    Not Arguing with you, but if people stuck to talking about traditional rods and customs the problem would fix itself. Thats my take. [​IMG]
     
  4. HotRodHon
    Joined: Jun 29, 2004
    Posts: 1,424

    HotRodHon
    Member

    I don't know, but Buffed Pussier would have kicked my ass [​IMG]
     
  5. FoMoCo_MoFo
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
    Posts: 1,666

    FoMoCo_MoFo
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    IMO

    it's called shit-taliking...It's the way it has always been from the beginning and it what has shaped this board into the great thing that it is currently

    ... it's the take your lumps or get the fuck out tradition... & my vote is we dont need to change it.

     
  6. It's..."2 cents"...or "$.02".

    I think Ryan has already pretty much addressed this issue.
     
  7. HotRodHon
    Joined: Jun 29, 2004
    Posts: 1,424

    HotRodHon
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    sense was intentional . . .
     
  8. plan9
    Joined: Jun 3, 2003
    Posts: 4,082

    plan9
    Member

    there are no unwritten rules as far as i can tell... and this has come up many times. personally, if someone cant hang with a little ribbing, then go away. we have a lot of talented people here already.

    i think the HAMB is fine the way it is. granted, the shit talking gets gay after awhile, its common for me to just overlook intros and O/T to avoid adding to the mess of bullshit that can sometimes arise.

    only irritation ive got are shysters... id like to kick their teeth in. without name dropping, there are a few in HAMB land. beware.


     
  9. repoguy
    Joined: Jul 27, 2002
    Posts: 2,085

    repoguy
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    I think all new guys should be beaten, raped, and then shot.

    And then raped some more! [​IMG]
     
  10. Jester
    Joined: Nov 4, 2003
    Posts: 961

    Jester
    Member
    from Blevins AR

    initiation.......you know like when you join a car club..or frat or when you come home late and your wife wants to spank you with a paddle
     
  11. [ QUOTE ]
    Not Arguing with you, but if people stuck to talking about traditional rods and customs the problem would fix itself. Thats my take. [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    As of late it seems that V-DUB AND MINI TRUCK owners consider their rides as traditonal rods and customs!

    Don't wanna start a Shitfire!,,,,,just my .02 cents worth!
    HRP
     
  12. HotRod60F100
    Joined: Jul 13, 2004
    Posts: 1,196

    HotRod60F100
    Member

    Its like the U.S.M.C if you make it thorugh Boot camp,your in the HAMBERINE CORPS' i purposely left out 'United States'as many here are from all over the world [​IMG]
     
  13. bigredjetta
    Joined: Aug 20, 2004
    Posts: 9

    bigredjetta
    Member
    from Kent, WA

    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    Not Arguing with you, but if people stuck to talking about traditional rods and customs the problem would fix itself. Thats my take. [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    As of late it seems that V-DUB AND MINI TRUCK owners consider their rides as traditonal rods and customs!

    Don't wanna start a Shitfire!,,,,,just my .02 cents worth!
    HRP


    [/ QUOTE ]

    Can't speak for the mini truck guys but I drive and work on VW's and I haven't really seen this mentality. And if anyone does they need to be hit in the head with a tack hammer because while VW's are fun cars IMO they are not hot rods by any use of the word.
     
  14. I don't recall getting a whole ration in the beginning. But I'm pretty thick skinned and probably wouldn't have noticed.I always run with a pretty rough bunch when I was younger and just figure it goes with the territory.

    On the other hand there reaches a point when it is no longer ribbing and I'm probably as guilty as anyone.

    I think that there must to be some way to let people know what is and isn't acceptable on the board. I don't think written rules are the answer. Some of us are just more tactful about letting it be known than others.

    I do agree that we have lost a few that may have had something to contribute. On the otherhand, we have no way of knowing because they never let anyone know anything about themselves.

    Maybe its like this, suppose I walked into Yosemite Machine and just went over to the valve grinding machine and started useing it. Now I've been grinding valves since I was a little guy, probably well before anyone knew anything about Yosemite machine.

    They'd probably do way more than be rude. On the otherhand if I spent some time getting to know them and they knew me they might not get too upset if I wanted to use their equipment to cut my seats and grind my valves.

    Its all about protocall, we are up against it everyday in everything we do.

    We could use a little less drama I suppose. But after you get to know these guys (spell that me) they aren't such a bad bunch. I don't think I'd change a single one of 'em.

    OH btw I read something you wrote the other day. Good stuff friend.
     
  15. Brooding Swede
    Joined: Feb 5, 2003
    Posts: 406

    Brooding Swede
    Member

    Cry Cry CRY CRY .... HotRodHon


    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I don't give a shit. This isn't a drama show. Who gives a f%$k.
    I'm sure you have alot to offer this place. But, be thick skinned. If you shit then deal shit out. OH OH !! The Drama..

    Dude how did you just join and your a member.. I've been here how long and I think I've help a little with flatty stuff and other things..
    Cry me a f%#king river man
    If a newbie get it a little hard then that’s just the way it is......the good the bad and the ugly that’s me The big bad Brooding Swede
    [​IMG]
     
  16. KIRK!
    Joined: Feb 20, 2002
    Posts: 12,031

    KIRK!
    Member

    I like newbies...............they taste like chicken.
     
  17. lucky_1974
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 1,068

    lucky_1974
    Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    Not Arguing with you, but if people stuck to talking about traditional rods and customs the problem would fix itself. Thats my take. [​IMG]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    As of late it seems that V-DUB AND MINI TRUCK owners consider their rides as traditonal rods and customs!

    Don't wanna start a Shitfire!,,,,,just my .02 cents worth!
    HRP


    [/ QUOTE ]

    Can't speak for the mini truck guys but I drive and work on VW's and I haven't really seen this mentality. And if anyone does they need to be hit in the head with a tack hammer because while VW's are fun cars IMO they are not hot rods by any use of the word.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I just wanted to have a quote in a quote in a quote...and add I see no problem beating people senseless that are here to talk mini trucks or VWs. Makes me laugh when they get offended. Occasional off topic subjects are fine but if you are never on topic you deserve to be bashed. [​IMG]

    CRAP I am off topic... Any buddy got pics of Ed "Isky" roadster. I love that car. Whew back on topic
     
  18. Lighten up just a little swede. [​IMG]

    I was a member a long time ago when I was just an FNG. Then I got demoted to something else or promoted. There's no rhyme nor reason to it.

    I think it was a legitimate observation that Hon made. At least he's more tactful than the guy up north that's gonna beat me up and words to similar effect. And all I did to him was call him a Scheist Caugh (SP). [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  19. bigredjetta
    Joined: Aug 20, 2004
    Posts: 9

    bigredjetta
    Member
    from Kent, WA

    I just don't understand why anyone would come here to talk mini trucks and VW's. Where in the site description on jalopyjournal does it say "Discussion for gay ass mini trucks and German Imports"? You want to talk about VW's, IM me and I'll tell you a dozen sites you can go to. I mean, I have been a member for about 4 hours and I can figure that out.
     
  20. Mutt
    Joined: Feb 6, 2003
    Posts: 3,219

    Mutt
    Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    I have been building Hotrods, Kustoms, and performance cars for 30 years. I would like to think I have plenty to offer to the Hamb. I guess I was just lucky. If someone had bashed me in my first few posts, that would have ended it. I would have deleted the link on my computer and never looked back. I’m way to old to try out for the team.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I've been building cars for 42 years. I'm 60 years old. And I ain't buying the "too old to try out for the team". Maybe you think you're too smart to try out for the team. Maybe you think you're too experienced to try out for the team. Maybe you think you're too cool to try out for the team. But what has age got to do with anything? You signed up on the same page as everyone else, and it clearly states "Introduce yourself - people want to know who they're talking to." You have to click "I Agree". It also says "traditional only, please."
    And what is a "hambone", and why do you keep using the term?

    Mutt

    Oh Yeah, Charley sucked......
     
  21. scooter
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 612

    scooter
    Member
    from phx,az,USA

    you think newbie bashing is bad now ? you should have been here when the board started .This is a kinder nicer version of the hamb .I am sure there are plenty of 4x4 vw ricer boards out there .I always thought this place was for old heaps ,cool ride ,do it your self know how &how to help .In short its RYANS baby and we are just playing in his sandbox .If a alley cat takes a dump in the sandbox you do not offer it milk [​IMG]
     
  22. Kilroy
    Joined: Aug 2, 2001
    Posts: 3,232

    Kilroy
    Member
    from Orange, Ca

    Fucking newbies...
     
  23. Zeke
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 1,716

    Zeke
    Member

    [ QUOTE ]
    you think newbie bashing is bad now ? you should have been here when the board started .This is a kinder nicer version of the hamb .

    [/ QUOTE ]

    No shit Scooter. There wasn't as much whining about it then either. It was get and give better than you got or get slammed somemore just for the fun of it. Marcus still gets it worse than anyone esle ever has so,I don't know what all the bitchin' is about anyway.
     
  24. [ QUOTE ]
    If a alley cat takes a dump in the sandbox you do not offer it milk


    [/ QUOTE ]

    Would that be considered a scat cat? [​IMG]
     
  25. 52Chief
    Joined: Feb 10, 2004
    Posts: 590

    52Chief
    Member
    from San Diego

    [ QUOTE ]
    you think newbie bashing is bad now ? you should have been here when the board started .This is a kinder nicer version of the hamb .

    [/ QUOTE ]

    That's true, my husband posted once a few years back, (2 or 3, I don't remember), about a car he was thinking of getting, (a four door) and was given the usual newbie shit, plus much more for the car he was talking about being a four door. He's still a lurker, (mostly because he works a lot though, he was actually teary eyed reading about the people offerning to help us out and raising money for my car to be chopped. So if you are in any doubt about the people on this board, I can send you the links to some very nice posts that show some serious kindness by the memebers of this board!).

    This is surely a more mellow place today. And most people get good replies as long as they post a decent intro and don't talk about 4-bys and imoprts.
     
  26. Brooding Swede
    Joined: Feb 5, 2003
    Posts: 406

    Brooding Swede
    Member

    HAHA!! Hambone just saying it makes me all warm and fuzzy... I got a bone .....

    P.S. I forget who just reply to me and said this but, there is no such thing as "NO rhyme or reason for it".. the reason your dumb [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  27. Circus Bear
    Joined: Aug 10, 2004
    Posts: 3,238

    Circus Bear
    Member

    Heah guy's it's me, the guy that posted the OT way to soon. I got bashed and set straight. It's part of life we have a bunch strong personalities (me being one as you will learned.) and people butt heads. It didn't bother one bit, I fucked up and got bitched at, I bitched back and now things are cool. I do however see where some meeker types can get hurt, and that's life, not everyone gets along all of the time. It's not anyones place to tell someone else that their reactions are wrong. If I offended anyone then I will go ahead and fuck myself since I'm sure I'll be told to.
     
  28. Slide
    Joined: May 11, 2004
    Posts: 3,021

    Slide
    Member

    I think some of it keeps out some would-be trash. If you can take it, yer probably OK to stay.

    When I was in art school, the first semester they constantly put us down, and criticized our work, even though we had worked on a project for the last 52 hours straight. A lot of people didn't make it (about 50% gone by Fall Break, another 50% of those left were gone by Christmas), but the students that were serious stuck in it. I'm glad I didn't have to share the advanced classes with a bunch of people that didn't care deeply enough about being there to learn.
     
  29. HotRodHon
    Joined: Jun 29, 2004
    Posts: 1,424

    HotRodHon
    Member

    [quote I've been building cars for 42 years. I'm 60 years old. And I ain't buying the "too old to try out for the team". Maybe you think you're too smart to try out for the team. Maybe you think you're too experienced to try out for the team. Maybe you think you're too cool to try out for the team.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    It's not about experice, smarts, or coolness. I'm simply asking to pin some guidelins up. Something that says read this before posting. THEN if they break the rules ya can blast em.



    [/ QUOTE ] You signed up on the same page as everyone else, and it clearly states "Introduce yourself - people want to know who they're talking to." You have to click "I Agree".

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Yes, and when I filled out that page i filled in a bio. It did not say anything about posting an introduction. If it did I would have before posting anything else.



    [/ QUOTE ] It also says "traditional only, please."

    [/ QUOTE ]
    It says traditional rods n customs. Not the best berger joint, jap bobbers, and all the other non car stuff we discuss. I think this is a great place to discuss all that stuff. But we shouldn't shit all over a new guy for doing it if we don't first say, hay stick around awhile before going off topic.




    [/ QUOTE ] And what is a "hambone", and why do you keep using the term?

    [/ QUOTE ]
    Simply because that's what was told to me when I was introduced to the HAMB. I just repete what I was told.
    If it bothers ya, try some of that thick skin you are so proud of.



    [/ QUOTE ]Mutt

    Oh Yeah, Charley sucked......

    [/ QUOTE ]

    What the fuck you talking about with Charlie Sucked?
     

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