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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. P426
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    That's nonsense.

    Pete

    P.S. Thanks for posting this pic, Bob Rice. Cool color!
     
  2. colesy
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    Earl Krutz of the Krutz and Calderhead Team in the M/SA Cherry Buster III.
     

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  3. Bob Rice
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    One of my all time favorites Bill.........
     

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  4. TMcCrea
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    I seem to remember it being a wagon when I saw it at Delmar in 1965 0r '66. It was really good looking then, painted a dark red/maroon with gold stripes. Anybody remember that color or have any photos?
     
  5. jrstock55
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    I snagged this photo a while back from somewhere. Sorry I don't have a credit to go with it.

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  6. Bob Rice
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    That is a George Cureton photo.
    Bob Rice
     
  7. TMcCrea
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    I posed the question to Little George and this is his reply:

    "There were two Cherry Busters the first being the maroon with gold stripes 57 wagon in F stock. Then they built the blue sedan delivery for either F/SA or E/SA. The delivery was one of the nicest in the country."
     
  8. colesy
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    Ok guys, I just received an angry E mail from the Studebaker Junior Stock Club of North America (S.J.S.C.N.A) that the Oldsmobiles are receiving far too much coverage and that they, (the S.J.S.C.N.A.) demand some equal time. ;) In an attempt to avoid a messy law suite, here's a couple Studey photos from the 1963 AHRA Winternationals in Phoenix. The first is the Ray Tanner A/Compact Stock entry, a blown Avanti II motor that ran a 14:59 @ 96.49. The second is Bob Manion's I/Sportsman entry which set a new record @ 14:73. Notice the Clay Smith Cams sponsorship. For those unfamiliar with Clay Smith, their logo was the famous Mr. Horsepower woodpecker. Also, here's another Clay Smith ad from 65. They just don't make ads like this anymore. Too bad.
    The last Studebaker is Ohio's Bill Ehrsam and his Commander Starlight Coupe. Like a few of the guys here, Uncle Sam cut into Bill's racing career. The small photo is from Indy 65. Bill was a regular at Milan Dragway in Michigan.
     

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  9. DW31S
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    The Oldsmobiles can NEVER get too much coverage! Now for the serious stuff-- I am not 100% sure of the fellows name "Harbin" i think-- had a TERRIBLE accident in a Stude and destroyed the car. He had been racing it forever and had it FLYING! I seem to remember him beating an Olds for class at a National event some time ago. Too bad and I hope he is O.K. Thanks, Dave. Oh yea, one more thing, yesterday on I-95 in Maryland I saw two transporters (enclosed race-car type) with "Rinaldi Motorsports" lettered on them. Was that you Dom--or your team? Until next time...
     
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    No that wasn't me. We travel with a 48' hauler pulled by a Dodge dually crew cab turbo diesel. I wasn't aware that there was another Rinaldi currently racing. Thanks for asking.
    Dom
     
  12. sinistri
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    Hey Guys.... anyone heading to geezers at the grove??? Not sure the weathers gonna hold out anyway....today was a washout..And just a quick word, i spoke to Doc Dress today (Buckshots current owner) and am happy to report the car is almost completed...And is back running/driveable! Mentioned to him the junior stock show at york that Darwin is doing and am hoping to see it there and elsewhere.. I had asked him if its possible to get some current pix....will share if i get them... Also spoke to Barry Bean after some phone number hunting....He is sharing pics and clips of the car w/ me this sunday...will post as i get them...This guy was a Killer !! So many wins its rediculous...
     
  13. P426
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    Ted Harbit is the name.

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    From what I understand the car above was the ex-Junior Stocker pictured below.

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    Pete
     
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  14. colesy
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    Yep, same one.
     

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  15. sinistri-would love to see some current pics of Buckshot! The interior is going in the In-Bomber within the next 2 weeks, we're planning on having the car totally done by spring/early summer. Whats this Jr. Stock show at York?? Would be cool to make it. We're possibly planning on bringing the car out to the Hot Rod Reunion in the mid-west next August to reunite the car with it's original racing team.
    -Dean
     
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    Dean, Kudos to your resurrection effort. Seems to me, that you're (as far as I know) one of the very-few current owners of previous NHRA Junior Stock national-event winners that are really serious about a proper restoration.

    Here's the link to the York US 30 event ... http://www.yorkus30.com/ ... and Darwin Doll's email address is ...
    mcmyork02@comcast.net

    Send him a note and share your intentions (don't be intimidated, he's really a regular guy) and I'm sure he'll reply.

    The In-Bomber could very-well be the star of next year's York US 30 event.

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  17. colesy
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    Picked-up a copy of the 1970 US Nationals class entry list yesterday. It has George Cureton entered in E/SA and driving Fred Borcherdt's 69 GTO Rocky's Goat. Anyone remember George driving for Fred?
     

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    I remember hearing that George drove the car. Matter of fact, I was at Indy in 1970, but don't remember actually seeing George drive. He may have sold the '56 Sedan Delivery by that time and was waiting to pick up Bobby Warren's Nova after the World Finals.

    Pretty good thinking, picking up the car at the track after it just won!
     
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    It would really be nice to hear from George ... (as Honest Charlie used to say) "HISSELF"

    George was only *on the trailer here, because he hadn't unloaded yet.

    I took this shot Friday morning at the Spring NHRA Div 1 WCS meet ... Englishtown 1971.


    How about sharing what happened during that weekend George.
     

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    "I took this shot Friday morning at the Spring NHRA Div 1 WCS meet ... Englishtown 1971"

    I was there too! Well, actually the next day, on Saturday afternoon, at my VERY FIRST drag race!

    Unfortunately, it was on the spectator side because back then there was a VERY DUMB New Jersey rule that forbid anyone under 18 years of age in the pits. :( Never mind you could get a drivers license at age 17 and legally drive--you still weren't allowed in the pits! Typical bureaucratic genius!

    In spite of that restriction, this (then) almost 13 year-old had the time of my life! Needless to say, that race made a VERY BIG impression.

    My only regret to this day was I didn't think of bringing along my mother's Kodak Instamatic camera...I guess the excitement of it all. :( If I did, I would've gotten as close to the starting line as possible (you know, non-zoom lens camera) and taken as many pictures film roll(s) permitting! :)

    Pete

    P.S. Thanks for the pic, Steve!
     
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  21. TMcCrea
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    You gentlemen (and ladies) should know that we had a very distinguished lurker this afternoon, none other than Dave Boertman. His daughter Nikki has joined us (Boertman1) and we hope Dave will join in and help with the memories.

    The following are some of Dave's comments that have been passed along by Nikki.

    "A couple things he mentioned..
    There were a couple posts people were wondering if a car shown in photos was my father's old car. He said he is almost certain it is not his Biscayne in both instances I showed him. The details he mentioned may help y'all in the future.

    pg. 164, #3266
    Almost certain not his car.
    Dad's Biscayne had-
    no chrome on door panels
    no flags on hood
    no "V" on hood

    There was another photo in question assumed to be my father's Biscayne, that he said also is not, but I can't find the photo right now.. This one did have "Chevrolet" emblem on the hood, like his (no flags, no "V", but that car also had chrome on the door panels, which my dad's did not.



    Pg. 105, #2098
    Dad said, it is him on the left, he thinks the man in the center is Grumpy Jenkins, and the 4th guy he thinks is Dave Strickler, he is unsure about the guy on the right.. He thinks one of the Camaro's ran modified which is why there are 5 guys in the photo.

    pg. 48 #946
    Not dad at Tarrytown NY assembly plant. He never visited the plant.

    pg. 63 #1250
    That is my dad's old race car. My dad said that is the old car he bought new from the dealer and turned into a race car. He raced it so soon after purchasing it he raced it solid white with stripes on the back. He bought it, took it straight to a race, and first race he put it in. The new owner painted it like it is shown in the photo. He believes that car is now in Pennsylvania."
     
  22. P426
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    Yes, indeed, Tom, a real honor!

    Pete
     
  23. sinistri
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    Hope you guys can make this show it would be great to see the car in person..!!! And thanks steve for posting the york show info!!!
     
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  25. P426
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    Dave's "keeping well", Doug. Here's a shot of him at the recent Indy Nationals.

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    Pete
     
  26. Rocket Surgeon
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    A couple of contributers to this thread qualified in the top 10 at the Englishtown points race today in Stock. Jack and Phil's son Steve. Good job! Steve #1 qualifer in Comp. too. Wow.
     
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  27. TMcCrea
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    Driving a VINTAGE Firebird, I see!
     
  28. P426
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    Tom,

    The only thing "vintage" about Dave's Firebird is its chronological age--not its styling, really, which it shares with its generic-looking, cookie-cutter, aero-blob, Euro/Jap-styled, modern day counterparts. :)
    Pete

    P.S. I wonder if this is his old Nationwise Rod Shop-sponsored Firebird from the early-mid 1980s?
     
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  29. I remember Lil George driving at Indy 1970. Steve Seaman driving my "It's Dynamite" wagon beat him in the finals. As a side note, as Steve went through the lights, he blew the right rear tire. I don't know how he managed to hold onto it but he got it under control and in doing so, blew the left rear tire. I'm on the return road waiting for him and the late Bob Duffy comes up to me and says that Steve needs me right now with the trailer that he had blown both tires and we only had 25 minutes to get to Paul Harvey Ford for teardown. We loaded it on the trailer with 2 blown tires, got to the dealership, unloaded it and drove it inside with 2 blown tires. After inspection, the late Joe Kenny lent me his spare set of tires so that we could push it on the trailer. I then went to see Firestone, as these were tires that I had just bought. They couldn't believe what they saw and replaced them, n/c.
    October, 2 months later, at the ATCO Divisional Points Final: The 181 car field comes down to (you guessed it) "Rocky's Goat", this time with Fred driving (I guess he didn't want to take any chances) and my "It's Dynamite" wagon. It's about 10pm and dew had started to lay on the ground. Lil George and I are standing at the fenced area that stuck out about 15' right near the starting line. Steve is in the left lane and as the lights come down and the wagon moves about 8', it spins the tires for an instant. At this point, I can tell that Fred is ahead and Lil George who is standing in front of me, starts to turn towards the pits and in doing so, says, "That's it", as he throws the white towel that he was holding in his hands over his shoulder. At that point, I grabbed his shoulder in order to get him to turn around and said to him, "Watch what happens in high gear". We both waited anxiously and the win light came on in Steve's lane. In spite of his loss, Fred did go to the finals in Dallas because he had enough points.
    If anybody would like to see this, look at the December issue 1970 Super Stock magazine, page 71. You can read the text and on the following pages see Darwin Doll congratulating Steve on his win. You will note in the picture that I'm not in it as most people assumed that Steve owned the car. I was the gofer/engine builder/financial backer that made it all happen.

    Dom
     
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    Couple shots from West Hampton / Islip


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