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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Tony Janes
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    Don Patrick H/S(In Bomber) lost to Larry Lombardo F/S in the semi final of the 1968 Nationals. The eliminator was known as Stock Eliminator as it is known today.
     
  2. That makes more sense. Tony where did you find that??

    And as for the hand-brake apparently it would be correct for a junior stocker since ours had it when raced. The car was a 4spd though. They just liked having more control locking up all 4 brakes rather than just the fronts with Line-Lock.

    Going over to the library today to print out the registration form for the York show, my printer is shot :D

    -Dean
     
  3. Tony Janes
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    National Dragster September 1968.
     
  4. Dean , stationary burnouts didn't become popular until about 1970.
    We would spin the tires driving out of the water, until they went dry. Then a couple more dry -hops. No need for a front brake only lock system with the stick cars.
    Line locks were available in the mid 60's.
    Ralph Ridgeway's killer 55 M/P car used a hand brake too.
     
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  5. twotoejoe
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    Glad you posted that Mark. I didn't remember when they became popular; I missed a few years in there. I just know that wasn't the way it was done in the mid 60's.
     
  6. I see! Thanks guys thats some cool info. So what exactly was the thought behind using the hand-brake then?
    -Dean
     
  7. 4MALS
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    I might have an interesting photo of a crude hand brake, sort of a manual line lock? It looks to be hooked up to a second master cylinder?

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  8. henry's57bbwagon
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    I would assume the hand brake is to keep the car on the staging line, Henry.
     
  9. Yes , but also ,you could take all the slack out of the driveline, once staged. We had a 5 amber tree back then. More time for that stuff.
     
  10. Herdez
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    Check this one out been posted before I think. Can someone duplicate this?

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    Heres another cool product I like.

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  11. Herdez
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    I researched this awhile back, I have a 57 unit. I havent done it but I think this is what you need for a rebuild with better modern stuff.

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    You need you factory posi case for this to work, pull the guts out and install the chrysler stuff.

    It uses dana44 part number ypkd44 p/l30 spyder gear kit to upgrde a 57-64 chevy posi unti to 30 spline axles. The axles are Moser custom chrysler 8.75 30 spline axles to fit chevy housing.

    The heart of the kit is using new style dana spyder gears and retainer plates dana44 pt#YPKD44 P/L-30spyder gear kit which is same as old style mopar pt#182447 retainer plate and mopar pt#1829448 spyder gears as mention by John dianna in his jr stock article.

    I hope the cross ref is correct.
     
  12. DW31S
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    Hi Guys, When I found my car (69 W31 Stocker) it still had (and still does have) the original Hurst line-loc. My car is a stick (original gearbox,blow-proof, and shifter) and has never been changed from being built and raced as a NEW CAR in 1969. Also, I am registered for York in July and can't wait. Until next time.....Dave.
     
  13. WGuy
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    Does anyone know when the Hurst Line-Loc first came on the market?
     
  14. P426
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    Hurst called it "Roll Control."

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    Without digging through my collection of vintage car mags to find the answer, was "line lock" just an generic term used to describe this device or was it a trademark of another company (e.g. Mr. Gasket Co.) who sold a similar product?

    Pete
     
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  15. Bob W
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    I think Mr. Gasket called theirs "Stage Lock".

    Bob
     
  16. jimdillon
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    We always called it Line-loc, although it was also obviously called roll control-Jim
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  18. WGuy
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    Thanks DOG. That's what I thought it was first called. I'll have to sift through my old speed parts catalogs, but I'm thinking it might have come out in '65. (maybe later):)
     
  19. racemad55
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    Bill is for now a lurker,He is coming to Island dragway tom. Hope to hear some good stories!
     
  20. sinistri
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    from reading pa

    Vargo Reunion Tommorow..... looking forward to it.... I have a bunch of pics and heard a million stories about the place but have never been there...should be interesting.. Anyone going?? anyone got pics??
     
  21. WGuy
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    Look me up. Check in by the Wildfire '62 to find me. Looking forward to meeting a few greats from the good days.:)
     
  22. LAWAUTO
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    Dean
    Check out my post Page #220 Post #4394.
    I only know who I ran.
    The third round I lost to Jim Weibel then he lost the next round the semis againest Bob Duell. YES the Drag-On-Wagon of Duell did run Larry in the final.
    Lou LAW
     
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  23. Bob W
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    1957 Pontiac Sedan Delivery , a rare car.

    Bob
     
  24. Lou- amazing photos! So it looks like you guys were on the other side of eliminations battling Duell to the top. The In-Bomber was a semi-finalist, not runner up. So on the other side, it would have been the Tokyo Rose vs In-Bomber, In-Bomber vs. Buckshot, then Buckshot vs. Drag-On-Wagon, with Larry winning. You wouldn't happen to have any photos of the In-Bomber running??
    -Dean
     
  25. X-TECH MAN
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    The original "DRAG-ON-WAGON" is located (whats left of it) in Waldo, Fla. along with the real original Color Me Gone 64 Nationals winning 64 Hemi Dodge. Neither car is worth anything as they have been stripped, and left to rot away. The acid dipping of Color Me Gone has all but eaten whats left of that car into an almost unreconizeable hulk. Anything and everything that was worth something is gone long ago. All thats let is a faint bit of lettering.
     
  26. WagonKiller
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    thats a shame:(
     
  27. P426
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    You were correct, Verne. Why would anyone want to change a cool name like Line/Loc to Roll Control?

    Pete
     
  28. P426
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    Hurst's products, concept cars, magazine ads, decals, accessories, etc. of the 1960s were some of--if not the--coolest ever!

    Pete

    P.S. And of course, Miss Hurst Linda Vaughn!
     
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  30. ScottV
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    Perhaps One of Georges greasted products was The Hurst Rescue Tool later to be known as The Jaws of Life. George is often miscredited as the inventor but as stated earlier he marketed the product/idea to the status it has obtained today.
     

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