Bob, I forgot about that car. Thanks for reminding me. But was the L.A.W. Automotive s.d. an exception to the rule? Pete
Here are all the pics I have of Jack's 70 W-31. He's in the opposite lane alongside Jim Waibel in the color pic.
James, This early-in-the-thread assessment (cut and pasted) from 'Old Tech Inspector's post #444 seems to sum it up nicely. "There used to be (2) stock eliminators. Top stock eliminator, which included SS/S, SS/SA, S/S, S/SA, AA/S, and AA/SA. 'Super Super' Stock was dropped about 1963 or 64, replaced with S/S, S/SA, AA/S and AA/SA. Classes below that were in Junior Stock Eliminator. When NHRA added additional Super Stock classes they had their own "Super Stock Eliminator" division. "Junior Stock Eliminator" included A through N stock. After the hp to weight breaks were changed it included A through X stock..."
Thank you for that, this is a fantastic thread and I'm about 50-percent through it all! So a '66 A/S Hemi Belvedere would have been considered a "Jr. Stocker?" I always thought it was the lower HP cars based on the coverage in Drag News, Dragster and the car mags.
Thanks for posting the pictures.I dont remember trying to sell the car I finally did after 17 years but not as a race car. Some of those pictures show Joe Allread driving. Remember in those days they did not weigh car with the driver and Joe was about 135 lbs. The one shot at night has me leaning over passenger fender,Jerry Davis over driver fender, Willard Wright with hisback to camera and the other guy is J R Smith. Picture was taken at world finals in Tulse. I believe Dave Boertman won P.S. That was the 55 sedan delivery.
The Car is still around. I saw it at the last Reunion they had in Columbus. Tom and Ray were on there way to a points meet. They has left my parents house in WV.
Yep, you're right, his name was Dick Lyons but I think some of us used to call him Wolf. I used to cruise through Milltown a lot, coming in on Riva Ave from Deans. I remember those fireworks displays too.
Hi Gary niece to see you on the forum.I am enclosing a picture of Jerry Davis's 55 Chevy Wagon at Irwindale
For the East Coast guys that is the old Wood-Oberholtzer car I bought from Don Wood after he moved to Tucson.
I am reading my way through this forum and thought I would put my two cents in. I dont know as much about this car as you guys but I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how it went so fast. After I got my hands on a reground cam it wasnt so hard to figure, The Pete you are talking about was Pete Preston. He worked for Jenkins, They ran it as Preston and Lawrence. I think it was later sold to Butch Yurick. Butch told me he bought it. Inre: Monster Mash
Hi Guys Just found this thread. Love Juniorstockers, have a Jrstocker-57Chevy w/stripes on roof and cross flags on door. Hope to be racing the car at the York Reunion at Beaver Springs in July. Also, hope to have my 55 Chevy Gypsy Wagon there too. Keep all the info coming...this is great-can't get enough of it! Read 25 pages the other night, brain still fuzzy. What I like about Jrstock racing was how close the races were at the finish.
I bought this car from Bob with a stock 283 and glide and drove it on the street. All went well until I loaned it to a friend of mine to drive while his car was in the shop. He got drunk and totaled it.
I was wondering if several of you have thought about getting a Jr. Stock circuit together such as the NSS cars (25-35 cars or more) or trying to get the Mid Atlantic Nostalgia Drag Racing Assoc. to run a circuit of Jr. stockers only in thier existing program? The cars wouldnt have to be drivetrain legal as during the era except in the "appearence" of the cars of the Jr. stock era (wheels, lettering, NO hood scoops except factory scoops, etc.). Quickest ET of 11.50 allowed so roll bars would not be mandatory. Or is it just wishful thinking we could ever see thse cars again because the cars are to expensive (collectable) today or are we all just getting to old and have no interest to be involved in something like this again....LOL. Just food for thought.
This thread is getting more interesting by the minute. Bob Isidore was in a car club with myself , Joe Santangelo Sr, John Hillman (Piecemaker Olds 442. I had completely forgot about this car . It was a 220/ 283. Not a national player, but just one of the many local racers, trying to be competitive in Jr Stock. Another note ; I was partners with the photographer (Whitey Russell) in a later racing venture. I wonder how this photo turned up?
I believe the reason that the jrstockers weren't covered in magazines as much as the other cars was due to the fact that the cars in the other classes used more after-market parts which were being advertised in the magazines. The magazines were driven by the advertisers, therefore who do you think the advertisers would rather see? Bottom line-what's it all about? - money
cgaswillys - It's been a long time since I saw one of those. Thanks for putting that up. Wguy - That's my car but it's being driven by its new owner, Frank Thompson. I remember the '61 (but unfortunately not the owner's name). I did the top end (heads, etc.) but never touched the short block. That car could fairly consistently run at least on the record. I also remember that that is the only car I ever worked on that got bounced in tear down. He set a record at Raceway Park (I believe) but was bounced for having dampeners in the valve springs. I never researched enough to see that the 170 horse motor didn't have them. My bad. Skip Asay
Very new to this computer thing..will have pics for you soon, thanks for asking. Wouldn't pass up a chance to talk about jrstockers
The Lambeck 57 Bel Aire was his wife's street car until he made it into a race car with the four speed 283 HP combo. The picture was taken at Indy in 1966 I think. The other car is John Yurkin of Cleveland, Ohio. John held the national record in 1966. Bob's 150 57 was debuted in in late 1967 probably at the OCIR points meet.
Tom & Pete The guy in the white shirt leaning on the fender is Tom Callahan of "Callahan & Sulc" fame. He drove "The Villain " that Frank eventually drove. Dom
Thanks Dom. I have posted this before, but for those who have not read the whole thread, here it is again.
X2 and if you talk to Bob Burch tell him hello from me. Met him in Indy in 68 when we were both running 55 sedan deliveries.. Nice guy