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NO Boxing Plates -Pix of Problems Please

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MATACONCEPTS, May 6, 2011.

  1. fiftyv8
    Joined: Mar 11, 2007
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    If you value the body you have on the frame, then boxing is worth it just to prevent extra stress thru the sheet metal and doors etc.

    Boxing is designed to strengthen the frame plus make it more rigid so that your suspension does the work.

    Better suspension will allow you to control body roll better as well.
    However hot rodding is all about doing it your way so it is your call on your build.

    Finally, if for no other reason, boxing helps clean up underneath the vehicle so no ledges etc for road gunk to sit on.
     
  2. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    ********. No stock V6 is gonna carry the wheels in that car. Come on, you would have to be retarded to believe that ****.
     
  3. MATACONCEPTS
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    wow. All im saying is, some get too caught up "Doing it All". They start boxing the frame & then . . . & then . . . They tend to overwhelm themselves.

    This site about "Traditional", & we know how angry you'all get about that too(most here don't accept a sbc as "Traditional"), & most, not all (you angrees out there), "Traditional" motors don't really crank out the h.p. requiring boxing plates.

    Hey, if you like the work, box it!!!! (Use a fan & eye protection all the time/every time) But sometimes keeping it simple works too.

    DRIVE THAT **** ESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. lowsquire
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    at times like this, I miss Germ.
     
  5. MATACONCEPTS
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    dont get too excited, my car's not that bad ***, however when i got it running several years ago, the dist. was off & the car was lifting the front tires off the ground. But to do that on a daily basis, I'd have to box the frame.
     
  6. Chuckles Garage
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    Box it....you will eventually regret it if you don't
     
  7. the-rodster
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    You sir, are full of ****.

    Rich
     
  8. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    You need to put down the pipe....

    Since you obviously have the "Distributor Set" now, just run out there and yank us a big wheelie in that beast, while your crackhead buddy films it. That will shut up all the people that don't believe you.
     
  9. daddio211
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    Here's some "traditional" advice, OVERBUILD EVERYTHING. If you think 1/8" plate will hold up under all of your abuse, use 3/8" plate! I understand that not boxing a ch***is may be traditional, but there's an 80 year old frame RIVETED TOGETHER was never intended to handle 200 horsepower. Thats 80 year old steel. It's been flexed and overflexed. It's soft and its brittle.

    Some may not consider safety traditional, but I'd rather be sneered at for boxing a ch***is and building it properly than be remembered because my **** came apart at 80 mph with my wife and kids in it!
     
  10. youngrodder1929
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    wheellie pics ? lol
     
  11. Phucker
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    Damnit guys, I'm gonna stick a nice healthy 498 BBC in a 34 Chevy pickup, whenever I can finally get my grimy mits on one to put it in, and now I dunno if the frame will hold up without lots of welding after reading this. Boyd told me I had to box it, but I threw a fit, and told him hell no, I didnt wanna! :eek:
     
  12. About 3months ago I did a model A frame for a friend It had been hanging from the rafters in a dry garage for 40 + years. It was in real good shape nice and square . It was amazing how fexible it was.After it was boxed totaly different deal.
     

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  13. Jkustom
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    I'm glad a bunch of people called ******** on the wheelie thing so I didnt have to.. Oh, wait..
    V-6 with an AUTOMATIC?? Mayyyybe with a sky high stall on the converter, and I'd still doubt it.. Not like your dumping the clutch at 6k, Or you have the traction to back it up??I'm sure it goes down the road just fine, but wheelies?? c'mon bro...

    I too miss Germ..
     
  14. Jkustom
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    Oh, and btw.. I dont know when it became the cool macho thing to leave an A frame stock when building a Hotrod, but that ****s gay.
     
  15. FiddyFour
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    i think what he's talking about is the fact the ch***is is flexing enough due to an unboxed frame that when he can get it to hook up a little, the torque is MAYBE enough to lift the driver side front i little... if that is the case, dude, your car is not safe... that ch***is is only going to take just so much of that abuse. time to rethink... i wish you well

    LOL! i'm sorry, but anyone who is a "do'er" knows murphy and his laws ALL to well. if you "do'er" enough, it does catch up to you.

    i think about that cat a lot...
     
  16. striper
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    I want some red cordial.
     
  17. shinysideup
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    Wheelies?? As delusional as you are , I wouldnt be offering advise on much.
     
  18. Carbs & Chrome
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    Are you the kid from that hot rod show that got in an argument with Coddington about boxing frames?
     
  19. badshifter
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    What a weird bunch of posts. You're on a bender or something. None of the **** you are posting makes sense, nor does any of what you are adding have anything to do with the original bragging you did.
    Boxing frames is traditional. SBC's are traditional. Telling lies to your friends about your car (car wheelies with the right timing) is traditional. Getting called out on ******** is traditional. The more you post, the less you know. Traditional motors don't make the horsepower to require a boxed frame? Do you have the slightest idea what the **** you are doing on the HAMB?
     
  20. Still waiting for the pics of the wheelie.......bahaha
     
  21. Before boxing, my stock Model A bare frame could be twisted with ease by hand, by one person. No body installed. Just a bare frame.
    After building my motor mounts, trans mount, then boxing the rust damaged frame, NO ability to torque the frame out of shape by hand or force. Then add the reinforcing from my ****** mount to the boxing plates for diamond resistance and even more twist resistance. I hope I have done mine right.
    How much can a person learn from that? Expect the car body to stop frame being torqued by the engine?
    Box it. Give the car more life by using good sense. Build some more to prevent diamonding and torque resistance.
     

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