No Service or Repair of vehicles!

porknbeaner:

I realize the original poster's problem and he has my sympathy, although I'd like to know more about why somebody complained (two sides to every story, etc.). Was he angle-grinding at midnight? Who knows?
My comments were pointed more towards the posters who like to proclaim "it's my property and I can do what I please because this country was founded on freedom" without recognizing that in a civilized society we make compromises and that our freedom is not unlimited. These same proclaimers would surely get their nose out of joint if one of their neighbors created a nuisance.

The bottom line is you can pick your friends, you can pick your neighborhood, or you can pick your nose, but you gotta be careful every time.[/QUOTE]

X2. If you are running a loud air compressor to power air tools like impact wrenches, shears, ratchets, I can see where this can disturb the peace of the immediate neighborhood. Also, if you work late in the evening on a regular basis, creating a lot of noise, this would be reason to complain. The home owner next door to me had two Cuda drag cars (8-9 sec cars). One with a 440, the other a 426 Hemi. He worked on his cars 3-4 nights a week until 2-3 a.m. in the morning. He raced them on a regular basis. The houses in my neighborhood are only 20' apart. My son's bedroom window faced his garage door. My son complained he couldn't fall asleep with all the racket this guy made working on his dragsters for the upcoming weekend race, or the grudge nights on Wednesday. His wife also raced. A little common courtesy goes a long way in getting people not to complain. I did end up installing a 7' high fence to block the bright lights he used at night. He also did a lot of welding. His car trailer was parked next to the property line. We all know what a racket it makes when driving a blown 426 hemi cuda onto it. When putting up the fence he and his buddy asked me if I was building the Berlin Wall. I said no. I'm building a sound barrier. Fortunately he moved four months later.

 

I ever understood why people would be concerned with "declining property values" unless they planned to sell - the ones who complain are usually ones who will be where they live until they die. If the value actually went down, so would their taxes, so it's to their benefit that your front or back yard looks like a scrapyard puked in it. Unless they're as crazy as a shithouse rat, and want to pay more taxes. Of course, the latter comes with the complaining usually in the first place, so...

 

For those wondering, there is a long history with the clown next door. The short story is the court system didn't look favorably upon his verbal and physical attacks that took place when I informed him other people were trying to sleep as he would scream at his wife at 3:00AM outside every other night. Unfortunately, this taught the azzhat how the system worked and since that time it's been one complaint after another to govt agencies, most with no merit at all or something that does not affect them at all. They pester the agencies continually so the pols feel compelled to do something typically to my detriment as noted in the original post.

The neighbors on the other side of him couldn't stand it and sold at a loss to move. We continue to refuse that option as we like our house and the rest of the neighborhood very much. BTW the rest of the neighborhood hears no noise. Go figure.

 

Then it seems to me the answer is to provoke hin into another verbal and physical attack, and go in and deny the provokation, or do so in a way that isn't legally defined as being in the wrong.

And don't forget the civil suit for damages if he does actually hit you.

 

So, the strategy is to live in the crappiest place because it has the lowest taxes, or, rather to turn your place into the crappiest place so that your taxes will be lowered?

 

bar codes tattooed on the wrists this is what i suggest if you can access the valve to turn their water fill the opening with a strong mix of cement when they have aproblem some day with their plumbing they will have great fun digging out the valve to turn off the water

 

Or turn off the water and then fill the hole with concrete.

I had a neighbor once turn me in to the city within two days of me moving into a rental house for not mowing my lawn. They left me a note saying that i had 2 days to mow or they would at a cost of 200.00. The fella in question had one of those better homes n gardens yards.

There is a thistle in Missouri that is endangered and protected and I knew where it was growing along the rail road tracks so I went and clipped some flowers (without getting caught big fine) and sprinkled the seeds all over his lawn. To this day he cannot cut them down that was almost 20 years ago.

Creative gardening 101

 

Just mow the grass for 14 hrs straight for a few days, stopping the mower only to run a leaf blower and blow the grass clippings. Maybe even get some help and some more mowers.

 

I think your problem arises from your "friends" cars. While they might really be your friends many use the same excuse. Its like guys in prison, they all say they are innocent.
Light service and repair sounds like they are talking working on others cars. Here in LAl you cannot work on a car that is not registered to you on your residential property. Unless they get a complaint all is fine but one complaint and they have to check it out, several complaints and you are screwed for a while anyway

 

Is this where that "1st-4th" burnout video in your driveway came from? HAHAHA Nice.
Gotta stand up for yourself, It helps others in a like mind.

 

Ha ha!
One of my favourite sayings is.
'There's more than one way to skin a cat!'

 

Now that's a good solution. I am suddenly thankful for my commercially zoned shop. I hope I remember this when I pay my property taxes

 

As a fellow human being, I would feel compelled to try and save them. I would send a letter to 911.

 

Hahaha... I'm going to steal this line every chance I get...

 

and then shoot the survivors again----

 

I could mow the lawn non-stop, but since chain saws are excluded also, I'm thinking my new hobby would be carving bears out of large hunks of trees.

 

I think i'd probably start by telling him to go F himself, and go from there, mabey bring it up with the city that you arent breaking the law and would appreciate if they filed his complaints in the recycle bin...

 

I like that. Another one is to plant bamboo on the property line. On your side, you have to edge it with heavy plastic or metal 2' deep so it won't spread on your side.

Bob

 

The situation of this matter is simple enough, too many people think LEGISLATION is a replacement for common sense, it ain't....

 

Sorry, Mike, I seem to have overlooked your previous post. Yes, if one approaches property values from a legal viewpoint, as one might to establish the value of a disputed property in a specific place and a specific historical situation (i.e. now) what you say is quite true. I was approaching the matter from a planning-historical viewpoint. I'm more questioning the mechanisms by which the desirability of pure residential property came to be desirable: and historically it is fairly easily demonstrable that it was more the result than the cause of zoning legislation.

More accurately, zoning in response to nascent phenomena allowed those phenomena subsequently to develop into a form that seemed to justify the zoning, after the fact. Your example of a pig farm is, in fact, a very good one: under a traditional mixed farming scenario the keeping of pigs was quite common and, by all accounts, largely unproblematic. Only with the emergence of commercial pig farming, i.e. farming with lots of pigs and nothing else, did a form of pig farming arise which could be offensive to neighbours. Giving this development specific legal protection allowed the offensive-to-neighbours character of this development to increase, along with the scale and value of operations. Whether the zoning (or rural equivalent) was justified in this case depends, therefore, on whether the consequent development was justified. It must certainly have seemed so at the time, but I submit that it is also quite easily demonstrated that the promises of food security, economic efficiency, and (arguably) improved quality of life have proved false.

Likewise the separation of residential and commercial land uses arose from a new type of commercial land-use, which was offensive to neighbours. Putting it apart all by itself allowed it gradually to become more offensive still, in the process cultivating economic forms that are problematic.

It must be said, also, that this is an extremely recent phenomenon in the history of human urban civilization. Despite the perception that the zoned city is the way it's always been (evidence exists that that perception was deliberately "spun" during the middle decades of the 20th century) it is for the most part barely 150 years old.

People say, one cannot turn back the clock. They mean thereby, illogically, that one ought not to try to correct historical errors. They might better mean that correcting historical errors is becoming increasingly urgent! If cities went wrong around 1860, they surely can't be fixed in 1860; they can only be fixed beginning in 2011, with the hope that they won't take another 150 years - or longer - to fix.

What I am saying about zoning is not that the amenity it seeks to maintain is invalid, but that it has failed as a mechanism for maintaining it - especially in light of its effect on whole urban systems.

 

in military housing they say we arent allowed to change the oil on our own vehicles....


so we pulled the engine and changed it inside the garage

 

I try to keep my neighbors respect.I don't leave anything car related out side,I close the garage door when grinding and hammering.I tell them that if I bother them in any way to let me know.When I see they have company or are out barbequing in there back yard or just out there I stop .I don't work late or too early either. I look at it from there view,it is a family neighborhood. I wouldn't want to hear them bashing away all hours either or look at there junk. I have been lucky (so far). Just got new neighbors on my garage side,yikes hope they don't give me any BS.

 

happened to me, I ignored it, 1 day an officer of the law stepped into my garage,(door was open), it was 10 at nite, he said he had been parked down the street for over 2 hrs and never heard anything loud enough to bother, his words Fuck Em, and left, never had another problem

 

My appeal of the Zoning Administrator's decision for "no service and repair" is scheduled for 7:30PM Thursday November 10th, 2011 at the Hudson, NH town hall located at 12 School Street, Hudson, NH 03051. The meetings are open to the public and may be of interest to anyone involved in our hobby.

Any support from the group would certainly be appreciated. How great would it be to see a line of hotrods and customs surrounding the town hall?

thanks

Rick

 

Maybe you should go do your repairs at the town hall, and tell them you're "Occupying" it...

 

the liquor he drinks ... and $200 a hour

 

Good luck with your hearing! If I was anywhere near your part of the country I would make a point to attend. Sorry I'm not. What I can though, between now and then bump this thread when I see it to get the word out. You might try starting another thread asking for folks to make a show of force with a bunch of hot rods... You might be able to change things.

 

Indeed!

 

When I have these types of problems with local clowns I find the lawyer the last big polititian used when he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and hire him to check on the rules statutes etc. I've never had to do more to get the locals to back off.