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Technical No yokes! T5 & Ford 9"

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 1941Torpedo, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. 1941Torpedo
    Joined: Oct 6, 2014
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    1941Torpedo

    Hi all,
    I've got a few T5 and 9"questions I am hoping you might consider responding to.

    9" in question is a '57 Ranch Wagon model. Question is, will any yoke bolt up to it? I know that there are yoke differences like long/short, big small, tab/clip. The drive shaft has yet to be ordered so I don't need to match anything. Is there anything special about my pinion shaft that requires a specific yoke?

    The T5 is a non WC Camaro unit. I am going to do the S10 tailshaft swap. I have no yoke for this either. Can I get a yoke for the Camaro tailshaft, order a driveshaft, then simply swap in the S10 later? I guess I am also asking if the tailshafts are the same length also. I am searching for the S10 tailshaft now but would like the driveshaft in place for the K-member fabrication that's next on the to-do list.

    Thanks!
    Jeff
     
  2. lonejacklarry
    Joined: Sep 11, 2013
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    I have learned my lesson on ordering driveshafts prior to everything bolted together. Maybe some folks can get away from it but I never could.

    A little time spent at a drive line specialist will answer all your question and they will be able to supply all the parts to make up a drive line.
     
  3. 31 Coupe
    Joined: Feb 25, 2008
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    The 9" has a 28 spline pinion used in all standard production types so a 1330 series yoke is readily available.
    Likewise the T5 has a spline the same as late Powerglides, T350 and others so a 1330 series yoke is common with them too.
    As mentioned before, wait until everything is in it's final resting place and then measure what's needed instead of guessing the length required. You could get lucky and find a production GM shaft that is longer and would only need one end adjusted.
    The rest is up to your dimensions and the driveshaft manufacturer.


     
  4. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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    All the 9 inch centers I have built use the 1310 yoke
     
  5. DDDenny
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  6. Inline
    Joined: May 13, 2005
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    Inline
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    The tail shafts are the same length however the rear mounts are different. The Camaro has an angle mount and the S-10 is flat.

    I am with Krylon32, I thought the small Ford u-joint is a 1310 joint.

    If you go with an early 80's and newer slip yoke, you will have to get a conversion u-joint. The GM used a 1344 joint that was held in with plastic or clips on the inside. Moog part# 372C is a 1344 on one side and 1310 on the other. Moog part# 355C is a 1344 on one side and 1330 on the other. These are readily available at Summit or Jegs.

    The T5 uses a standard Muncie 4 speed , aluminum power glide and turbo 350 spline slip yoke. It's a 27 spline or sometimes referred to a 26 (+)1 since it is missing one tooth of the spline for lubrication purposes. If you get a 60's or 70's slip yoke, they will be a 1310 joint. If you find an S-10 or 80's GM yoke, they will be 1344.

    I would stick with a pre-80's shaft to shorten as those ends are fully machined where they fit in the tube. The 1344 ends are not machined and are pressed into the tube which makes it difficult.

    I have plenty of S-10 T5 tail shafts if you need one...unfortunately, they are all electronic. If you need any measurements, feel free to hit me up with a PM.
     
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  7. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    You should be able to find new yokes that take the 1310 U joint, which will make life simple....that's what I'd want to do, if I had a choice.
     
  8. 1941Torpedo
    Joined: Oct 6, 2014
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    1941Torpedo

    Good points.
    The motor is in it's mounts and the rear is bolted to the four link, if the tailshaft swap doesn't change the length I just might risk it.
    Thanks!
     
  9. 1941Torpedo
    Joined: Oct 6, 2014
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    1941Torpedo

    Thanks for your offers, going to hold out for a cable unit (if I can). Lots of great info, bookmarked your blog link. Gonna have to check it out further when I have more time, you seem to be a T5 guru!
     
  10. Ghost28
    Joined: Nov 23, 2008
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    I went to a local gear shop and had them change out the yoke on the 57 nine inch I used to a standard 1310 no problem. They usually have a bunch of used items laying around
     
  11. 1941Torpedo
    Joined: Oct 6, 2014
    Posts: 45

    1941Torpedo

    Thank you for taking the time to reply guys.
    Just to clarify a few things:

    Any yoke will bolt up, spline count wise.
    The four digit #s (1310, 1340) is referring to the u-joint used between yoke and driveshaft.
    A conversion u-joint has two different series, same joint.

    Jeff
     
  12. Barn Find
    Joined: Feb 2, 2013
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    When Dad put a '57 Ford 9" in his Speedwagon, he found a yolk off late model Lincoln. He was able to turn that yolk on his lather and bolt it up to the original 1933 driveshaft and U Joint. You're not likely to mess with an obsolete U-joint like that, but it just goes to show that you can find all sorts of yolks for a 9".

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