hi there i love the cars you guys are building and if i were near would be right there with you!!! that said my parts list for my version of ha/gr is as follows 56 ford front axle 1/4 elliptic , 250 6 ,powerglide ,9 inch ford and the is intended to run brackets at my local IHRA track, i hope you'll understand the choices i've made and allow me to pick your brains and follow along with your builds thanx and drag on
Welcome, I want to see some pictures when you get started. Even the mockup. Is that motor a ford or chevy?
Good choices to start. I flushed $1500 down the toilet before I wised up and went to a powerglide. The reason it's fun is because you can race and not cost a lot. If you break every week it gets not so fun. I have $300 in the powerglide and it works great. I bought everything used and my cousin put it together. If that is a Chevy six it will be easy to get parts for. The roundy round boys have lots of parts for the Ford six so it should be cheap to build. Have a blast.Roy
yes it is a chevy 250 ,i also have 2 292s and a 261 any ideas as to which would be best ?292 strikes me as very large dimensionally and the 261 will not mate to the 'glide ,but interested in your thoughts!
Bit of info: The 292 is too late model to meet the rules of the HAMB cars. The engine and related parts need to be 1962 or earlier. Ron
As I understand it, the rules were made (W/ the '62 cutoff) to keep the 292 Chev and the 300 Ford (specifically both) out. Not anything I have read specifically, but 'reading between the lines' of some of the formative posts, it was readily apperent that those engines were not wanted (can't seem to place those posts right at the moment though). If you're wondering why that 292 & 300 are bad and the 302 Jimmy isn't, take a gander at the port layout on the straight 6 Jimmy, the intakes come to a T, then go to the valves (unlike the 292 where they feed from a common port and the 300 with it's individual runners). That and both the later Chev and Ford are 7 Main engines, implying a higher (reliable) potential redline. Not that I'm nit picking, just what I understand the gripe to be. 250 I haven't really heard too much (a few grumbles, but not many). That and IIRC the 200 ford and 194 Chev are already in the works, sooo... (I believe no one is griping about those primarily due to the self imposed displacement limit the builders chose, but I have no proof). Bottom line, have fun, I too would like to see pics.
thanx again where do we stand on the 261 chevy out of a 59 big truck, and would there be any advantage over the 250?hope to mock up er this week , waiting for springs an shackles to begin the front end! drag on
Don't get me wrong..I'm not a Chevy expert.. But a friend of mine runs a 261 block in his "T".. Says they are much stronger than the car version..And can withstand Hop-Up much better...Ron probably knows more about this than I.....62 or sooner,, Thats it... Ne**ussian.. Tell Sara Palin I really need to talk to her.....he he he..
the 261 is fine we have one in the hornet this the third year on the orginal rebuild runs 12/30s 107 any where any time also was the very first hamb car completed and had pg in it from the start but was outlawed .you can buy a adapter to the pg we made our own. the 261 can be bored out to exceed 270 ci.
I built a 321 cid Jimmy for our car and make some serious power. However, I don't recommend this engine, from the cost and serious lack of parts standpoint. I think the 261 engine could be built to make decent power without selling your first born to pay for the engine. If you really want to go fast our machine shop can build you a killer GMC. Ron
Uhh, yeah, I'm sure lot's of guys would like to 'talk' to her. The 261 can be made bigger for 'relativley' cheap. Check out Webrodder.com, search for 'stovebolt stroker'. You still have the Chev head to deal with for flow limit though. It's too bad the Jimmy Ron built took so much extra machining but it's a cool end result regardless. (that much work on the bottom begs for a 12 port up top though , cl*** rules, I know, sigh).
We actually got the GMC intake to flow very well for such a sorry-*** design. The exhaust flow ****s but the right cam grind and the right header (my winter project) can cure that I think....at least it will help. The automatic cars launch much better than our manual ****** car and it's reflected in their ET's. However, I hope to cure that this winter and knock about 5-6 ten's off our ET. Then again I may be smoking dope and still be chaseing them next year. I need to put the engine back on the dyno and do some more playing with our combination. Isn't racing fun! Ron
Yep, racing sure is fun. I didn't mean the Jimmy was impossible to make flow (it flowed better than the Chevy, of similar deisgn) just that it has a heck of a 'flow impediment' designed in (hence, the 12 Port would be exceedingly cool, if illegal ). I'd love to see what you have in mind for a header. I think loading the drive train against the brake should help some (while sliping the clutch). Dunno they got that good a grade of dope there?
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