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  1. rod noken
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    Were there other manufacturers that built hemi head production engines? Other than Chevy semi-hemi series from the late 60s; any search with the hemi in the search bar ,all i've found is mopar. Must be others...

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  2. chriseakin
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    Was the Ford SOHC v-8 a hemi? Daimler and Toyota both built hemi v-8s. I'm pretty sure there was one way back in the 20s - maybe Chandler or Maxwell or something like that?

    Here's a quote from wikipedia:
    Hemispherical combustion chambers, which had been used for centuries in mortars and cannons,[1] were introduced on some of the earliest automotive engines, shortly after proving the concept of internal combustion engines themselves.

    Hemispherical cylinder heads have been used since at least 1901;[2] they were used by the Belgian car maker Pipe in 1905[3] and the 1907 Fiat 130 HP Grand Prix racer.[4] The Peugeot Grand Prix Car of 1912 and the Alfa Romeo Grand Prix car of 1914 both were four valve engines also, Daimler, and Riley were also using hemispherical combustion chambers. Stutz, beginning in 1912, used four-valve engines,[5] conceptually anticipating modern car engines. Other examples include the BMW double-pushrod design (adopted by Bristol Cars), the Peugeot 403, the Toyota T engine and Miller racing engines, and the Jaguar XK engine.[6]
     
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  3. Tatra aircooled V-8 with 2500cc. Cool engine
    Daimler (as mentioned) with 2500cc or the rarer 4500cc version
     
  4. The37Kid
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    The Daimler was used in an East Coast midget back in the 1970's, think one is in a '32 Coupe now here on the HAMB. Bob
     
  5. The37Kid
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    Do you want to count the Welsh that was built back in 1908, it was just a 4Banger not a V8. Bob
     
  6. rod noken
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    Thanks for the replies,knew there had to be some.

    rod
     
  7. RichFox
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    Kaiser Jeep made a six cylinder SOHC hemi head engine. Only hade six lobes on the cam. Same lobe for the intake and exhaust. I worked on lots of Pratt&Whittney and Curtis-Wright hemi engines. Big ones. Blown. Not in cars though.
     
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  8. toolz1175
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    The 427 SOHC Ford was a hemi, as well as the Boss 429. The 351C, M, 400, 429, 460, and the BB chevy had canted valves, but not hemispherical combustion chambers. I might be mistaken, but I think Chrysler had the "Hemi" name copyrighted, so Ford, or whoever, couldn't use it.
     
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    Didn't the English Riley make a HEMI with underhead camshafts? Bob
     
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    ALFA ROMEO 4 banger... 1954 to 1994
    Schweet Little Engine!
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    BLASPHEMER!!! :D

    Ray
     
  14. aaggie
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    Wasn't the Offys either a pent roof or hemi configuration? Never worked on one but I did a lot of reading and loved the front engine Indy roadsters.
     
  15. seb fontana
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    Agentina Ford had Ardun style V8 60's as a production engine
     
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    There was a lot of foreign cars (Jaguar,Alfa,Ferrari etc.)and motorcycle engines that are Hemis. Chyrsler copyrighted the name Hemi
     
  17. marfen
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    In '06 Joe Hilger Chrysler exec who took over the Mopar Performance division told me when they decided to bring production of 426 Hemi blocks/heads that he discovered Chrysler did not have HEMI trademarked! The deed got done promptly.
     
  18. Yes they did.
     
  19. finn
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    The talking heads on the B/J auction telecast kept talking about the Hemi combustion chamber on the 50s-60s Jaguars.
     
  20. woodbutcher
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    :p Definite OT engine,but the 71 1600 Toyota Corolla 4 cyl was a hemi also.96.6 CI and 101HP.
    Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
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  21. Rusty O'Toole
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    Lots of Japanese engines 60s and newer were hemis. A lot of today's OHC engines are hemis.

    If you go back before the seventies there was Chrysler, Dodge, DeSoto, Imperial, Jaguar, those were the most common hemi engines.

    There were others like Riley which was also used in some early Healeys. Some Italian cars had them. Like Alfa, Lancia, Ferrari, Maserati.

    A lot of race cars like all Offenhouser, Miller, and Duesenberg racing engines. In fact every pure racing engine since 1912 was a hemi unless prevented by the rules.

    Prewar, Stutz and Duesenberg in the US and some expensive European cars like Bentley. BMW had hemis with pushrods from the mid 30s. From the late 60s they went to OHC with belt drive.
     
  22. RmK57
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    Boss 429 wasn't exactly a true hemi, more of a twisted hemi. The valves were canted a somewhat. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1421716927.786869.jpg


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  23. rod noken
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    Thanks for all the responses guys,knew that there had to be more.
     
  24. I think that is why we called them a semi hemi way back when.

    They actually claim that the 426 hemi is not a true hemi because the combustion chambers are not deep enough. You need to think sphere when you are thinking hemi and the face of the head wants to be on the equator. At least that is the purest's view of it.
     

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