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Folks Of Interest Non-White Custom Car Builders

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by PostwarModernist, Jan 29, 2024.

  1. PostwarModernist
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    Does anyone know of any older car customizers who are from diverse cultural or ethnic backgrounds, particularly those who are not commonly represented? Please excuse my ignorance of this topic. A friend asked me if there were any and I didn't have an answer for him.
     
  2. PostwarModernist
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    I'm sure there were plenty. But as many times as I was out at Starbird's Hall of Fame. I can't recall seeing many.
     
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  3. denis4x4
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    Joaquin Arnett, one of the Bean Bandit founders, was better known for building dragsters and Bonneville cars, but also built some great customs. He built a chopped, channeled and sectioned ‘34 Ford coupe that was entered in a number of shows and was bought by Andy Granatelli of STP fame. More Hispanic names you never heard of built some outstanding low riders like the Gypsy Rose that was featured on a postage stamp.
     
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    If you go thru the California hot rod magazines of the fifties you will see names of Greek, Portuguese, Hispanic, Italian, Chinese, Japanes etc first generation or second generation immigrants and very few Plymouth Rock old time American names. I don't know if this means anything or reflects the cultural diversity of the general population.
     
  6. Moriarity
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    Eddie Martinez was one of the best custom upholsterers around
     
  7. fastcar1953
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    Steve Stanford great illustrator . loved his work in Rod and Custom magazine. 4630b376757e8cb7d9171d9ad1d74f87.jpg f0a4cd52460077e926f1550c674867ad.jpg
     
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  8. PostwarModernist
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    I'm sorry if it came off that it matters. This was simply for my educational purposes.

    We always see Barris, Winfield, Hines, Starbird, etc. I thought it would also be awesome to see the work done by different cultures at the time. Maybe the question should be, "Who were the less well-known builders of that time?"
     
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  10. Flip through a fifties or sixties issue of hrm. Youll notice a crap load of Hispanic last names. Have to remember the juiced lowrider craze(hydraulics and 100 spokes) is a direct descendant of the kustom kemp era. Honestly there were so many names that fit your criteria it'd serve disservice to countless others to mention them solely over nationality
     
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  11. The Ayala Bros were of Mexican decent. They were born in the US but their parents were from Mexico.
     
  12. Rusty O'Toole
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    The iconic Hirohata Merc was the inspiration of Japanese Bob Hirohata

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    I'm pretty sure Ed Roth was from another planet...
     
  14. I seem to recall he was quite proud of it too
     
  15. aircap
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    Have you checked out lowrider builders?
     
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  16. goldmountain
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    I'm old, of ethnic minority, but probably don't have enough time left to get famous.
     
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    Don't forget our own world famous jnaki.
     
  18. Fortunateson
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    I understand the OP’s question but I’m more interested in colour of the vehicle than the builder/owner...
     
  19. Ryan
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    I cleaned this thread up a bit. Nothing was posted that I considered racist, but some of the posts felt strange to me and could be misconstrued or could ignite an argument that would end with me banning the shit out of some people.

    So as you reply to this thread, keep two things in mind:

    1. The guy that hosts this joint is VERY sensitive towards this subject. I can't stress that enough. I will pull ZERO punches.

    2. Also, the guy that hosts this joint has no interest in hosting your opinions on things like cancel culture, modern political bullshit, or where you stand in society with such things.

    Thanks and carry on...

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    Also... I grew up in Midland, TX which isn't far from the epicenter of the barrios that really sort of took the custom car and morphed it into a different scene - Lowriders. That genre is just as rich and vibrant... and in many ways, I prefer it. Especially to the custom car scene post 1965. I made a video about attending a Lowrider show years ago, I'll see if I can find it.
     
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  20. Sky Six
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    The Armenian community in So Cal had great representatives. John Mazmanian, his nephew Richard Siroonian, Rodney Agajanian, and Tim Sousamian did custom trucks. There are a bunch of others that you would know the cars but not the names.
     
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  21. BamaMav
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    Again, I think you need to look toward California. Pre WWII and for sure after, it was , probably still is, one of the most diverse places in the USA. If anything was going on, it was there, and by people with all kinds of heritage. Not saying other areas didn’t have that mixture, but in my area there were more Smith, Jones, and Moore’s than Weiand’s or Edelbrock’s. The name or heritage probably didn’t have a lot to do with the creativity from a lot of them, it was probably more exposure to different ideas.
     
  22. PostwarModernist
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    I appreciate all these answers. Thank you guys for helping me out on this topic.
     
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  23. Ryan
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    OK... I found the video and it's largely off topic. I am gonna post it anyway as it gives you some context of where I am coming from and how I grew up. Most of these guys in the video are friends of mine since high school. We were a crew. In fact, my tight friend group was 3 white guys, 3 black dudes, and four Mexicans. I'm still close with a lot of them.

    Anyway, about 15 years ago when TJJ was taking off one of my old pals took over the Lowrider show in Odessa. He asked if I would go and cover it and I had the really uncomfortable conversation of explaining that late model lowriders wasn't something I covered on TJJ. He got it. He totally got it. And just wanted me to do something creative for the show. So, I interviewed everyone that was there from our old crew, shot their kids, and built a little 30 minute doc of sorts. Here is the trailer:



    While I was there, I had a smile on my face the whole time. These absurd cars bouncing around and bass filling the air and... it was exactly as my trailer portrays. I'm sure the visuals make a few of you uncomfortable.

    But you know what else it was? Family. These are dudes that have had my back my entire life. I could call any one of them right now and tell them I need help in Austin and they would be here before the sun sets. It doesn't matter than I'm white and some of them aren't. Skin color doesn't matter. It's not even a thought.

    And culture? Only the good shit matters. We might look at a hopping Impala and ask why, but they might look at the same car with fucking monsters and skulls painted all over it and ask many of the same questions. The important part is the cars and the passion for them - not the genre.

    But ironically, it was my exposure to lowriders in high school that got me into the history of custom cars to begin with. Their cars lead me to my own Impala (yes, on switches) and later my '55 Chevrolet. My tastes have always leaned more toward the subtle.... otherwise, I might be hosting a Lowrider Journal right now. Those are my people since birth anyhow... and I've come to learn, those guys share A LOT of similarities with the folks that birthed Hot Rodding and Custom Cars.
     
  24. Those Impala low riders are awesome to me. They put a fortune into the chrome and paint. I would like to see more of them locally but there just aren't any around this area that I have seen. I don't get the hoppers, but they do look like fun to see.
     
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  25. Ryan
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    Hoppers are the result of human nature... taking shit too far. Hydraulics were initially for stance... Most of Lee Pratt's customs are really early lowriders and most are on juice.

    It's like angel hair... one custom guy does it minimally and the next thing you know, people are doing full interiors.
     
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  26. Lone Star Mopar
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    I once read a quote here on the Hamb.
    "The only difference between a Lowrider & a Kustom is the zipcode"
    Lowriders were my intro to this thing we do. I was turned on by them long before I knew shit about Traditional Hot Rodding.
     
  27. I have had the chance to see several Low Riders up close and personal and the thing that always gets me is the attention to detail. To me, it screams pride. I'm sure competitiveness has driven some of it to insane levels as well. But there is no denying the craftsmanship, time and effort put into their cars. Everyone time I stopped to look at one of the cars, someone, either builder or owner was there to answer questions and share the story. Loved the experience!
     
  28. PostwarModernist
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    My first showpiece was a LowRider Bicycle, showed it for 3 years, and 2 of those years were on the ISCA circuit. So I understand the connection in that sense. I used to have stacks of LowRider Magazines growing up and got many of them taken away in high school haha. I'm a car guy all around and Kustoms are my jam. I just wanted to have an answer for anyone if the question was asked. I don't know how many times I've been told Custom Cars was something that "white people do" which I know from growing up in the car show scene is far from true. I was just curious to see how many builders in the early days were of a different decent.
     
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