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Not sure what wirring harness or company to go with. Ron francis or American autowire

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 56 ford custom, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. 56 ford custom
    Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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    56 ford custom
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    from Socal

    Well my 1956 ford is almost done at the shop for the suspension. So its time to get started on figuring all my wirring. I have two catalogs, one for ron frances and one for american autowire. I like these two companys because they are good quality and the wires can be pulled right off with clips. They arent sodered straight to the block like other wirring harnesses.

    So i guess the question is what are you guys and gals using? What do you like most? Pros and cons. Im looking at the Ron francis express harness and the American autowire highway 22 kit.
    Or what other harnesses would you use from these companys?

    Im running a full air ride set up, electric windshield wiper, full radio system,power windows,door poppers,head lights,tail lights,turn signals, gauges,glove box ligbt,dome light, trunk light, electric fuel pump, rear liscense plate light and a few other acc.
     
  2. FlamedChevy
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    Both are good harnesses. Look at Rebel before you buy....Do a search for Rebel.
     
  3. hotroddon
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    I have had VERY good luck with Painless. Have installed a couple of dozen of them
     
  4. oj
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    Americam autowire, they'll take you right out to the elements on the lamps, just like factory. Rebel, a vender here, is very good too. Painless isn't, and they are the bottom feeders of the electrical industry.
     
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  5. 1950ChevySuburban
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    Another vote for REBEL WIRE
     
  6. I've heard nothing but good things about Rebel wire. :D
     
  7. jamcoupe
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    Rebel wire!!!!
     
  8. strawberry
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    yep my next harness will be rebel wire, you might want to check them out, they treated me good last time , then I found out the harness was a cheapo in a rebel box
    got it at a show cheap from a selling different stuff ..I guess whoever bought a cheap one and then the rebel so he used the rebel and swaped the cheapo in the box it was new in the unopened bag so I waited till I got back to fl. to open the bag..just to find the instructions didn't match the wires ..bummer but it all worked out, anyway their instructions are great, easy to install,
     
  9. ol'chevy
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    I have installed 1 It's a Snap and 2 Ez Wire mini fuse box harnesses. They are nearly identical. All went in easily and I have had no problems out of any of them. For the price, I don't think they can be beat.
     
  10. Steves32
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    This takes Rebel out of the picture.

    I have used both AAW & Ron Francis in my cars. I just installed the AAW Highway 22 in my roadster a couple of months ago.
    AAW even includes a gauge harness w/ plug. No one else does as a part of the kit. I'd go AAW.

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  11. Louie
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    AAW all the way.
     
  12. 56 ford custom
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    Hey steves32, do you think the harness you have would work for me and all the acc i have?
     
  13. Steves32
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    Definately.

    Now I do believe Ron Francis sells a 24 circuit panel, no one else does.
     
  14. 56 ford custom
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    I just dont want something that will be total overkill
     
  15. no55mad
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    There has been information out lately about quality of wire. What is the good wire called and who makes a harness with this quality wire?
     
  16. A.P. Photography
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    I am looking for something that is going to contain everything I need and be easy to install. I will be running a 302/C4 with electric fans, car audio system, AC, and all the basics in a 55 Ford Victoria. Which one would be the best to go with?
     
  17. glenn33
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  18. moter
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    Imho..AAW.. I am installing one on my roadster now. Very nice setup.

    Next, you say you want it "easy to install" but you have a/c stereo,fans..etc...No system is going to be easy if you dont have alot of experience. Just take you time and plan it out.
     
  19. 40StudeDude
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    Hmmmmmmmm, "bottom feeders", eh...??? Well, chalk up one vote for Painless from me...I used it in my '55 Caddy and it was good...altho their instructions weren't the best, the quality is good, the panel was good...and so was the price.

    R-
     
  20. Doc.
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    I really like the American Auto Wire kits. We installed one of their cloth covered kits recently and I was impressed with it.

    Doc.
     
  21. need louvers ?
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    I have done several using Haywire products in the past, and like they're product quite bit. I am currently doing a '55 Pontiac wagon with a kit from American Auto Wire and I have to say it is a well appointed kit. I do like how everything is on plugs for separate harnesses. It does seem to have allot of redundant circuitry though. On some thing this big, it doesn't seem to matter, but on a smaller car I would think twice about using this kit.
     
  22. 56 ford custom
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    Well this leaves me stumped. I dont want to use anythinv that doesnt have plugs like AAW or Ron francis. The thing about AAW is that they are based on gm wirring and im building a ford.
     
  23. INVISIBLEKID
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    Only for the steering collumn....I installed a AAW highway 15 kit in my Merc. Just tapped into my TS sw is all the difference. Very nice and thought out kit IMO.I would use them again.
     
  24. Glenn + Rebel Wire = SATISFIED CUSTOMER

    Support Hamb Vendors


    Jim
     
  25. Steves32
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    IMO- bigger is always better. On kits like Rebel (not knocking it at all- installed one in friends car), if you have a large kit & don't use certain circuits, you have to coil them up for future use. I like a clean installation & coils of unused wires don't appear clean to me. AAW & Ron Francis allow you to leave the wires you aren't using (like A/C, windows, etc) in the box & not in the car. Later on- you are good to go.
    I like the ability to add on if needed.

    I think the important questions are
    Do you want a pre-terminated panel or something more custom?
    How many circuits do you need?
    Will you expand at any point?
    Is the panel feed fused?
    Are you limited to panel location due to wire length?
    Do they use insulated terminals or uninsulated w/ heat shrink (AAW uses mostly the latter)
    How's the phone tech? Rebel & AAW are great. Ron Francis- not so good since they sold to employee.
    How easy are instructions to follow?
    If using a stereo- does it have a 12v radio ign & separate memory circuit?
    If carbed, does it include electric choke wire?
    Does it include wiring for electric fan & relay?
    Does it include wiring for all gauge combos?
    Does it include dimmer, light & ignition switches? (you may not need but nice to have)
    Include wiring for license light?


    Lots to think about.
     
  26. Stink63
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    I used only american autowire on my '63 impala that I rewired the entire car and had zero issues plus they have great tech support if u need it and I did because I had wired some things wrong at first. Just my experience.
     
  27. HOTRODPRIMER
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    American Autowire is what I am installing in the wagon and I have used them all.

    This is the 5th AAW kit I have used and I am extremely happy with their product. HRP
     
  28. i just bought a rebel wire harness for my 57 at the last indy swap meet my 57 is still just a full scale model kit right now but the from just looking at the new harness it looks to be very high quality and pretty much idiot proof even for an electrical idiot like me and couldnt beat the price
     
  29. metal man
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    Definately AAW . Better customer service than Ron Francis . Have heard good things about Rebel on here, but they come with a lot fewer of the necessary items and the only one I used was on a 56 F100 and some wires were too short . American Autowire is the ticket .
    By the time we bought all the parts that the Rebel kit doesn't come with , it cost as much as the AAW kit .
     
  30. nico32
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    How often are you looking to move your wires around? Once it's in, it should be a done deal. Anyone that's worked with wiring will say, the more connections you have for a wire the more chances you have of it failing/shorting/breaking. A soldered connection at the fuse block is more reliable than two separate terminals screwed into a connection strip.

    Personal recommendation is for Kwik Wire. 22 circuit would cover everything you are looking for.

    http://www.kwikwire.com/wh_22Circuitstreetrodwiring.html
     

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