November's Rod & Custom was a little disappointing

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The current R&C is a lightweight, not just this month but for most issues in the past year. Granted, it's miles better than it was under the control of its last long-time Petersen editor, but I find little to compel me to want to pay for it. A quick newsstand scan is enough to prompt me to move on to other titles to spend my money on.

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That's what I meant when I started this thread. Except that I do pay for a subscription.

I don't mean to "bash" R&C, or any of its staff. However, its recent content really has been disappointing compared to the high level of its content historically.

I'm not threatening to cancel my subscription or anything. It just hasn't been at its best recently.

--Matt

 

The asswipe comment was meant in general to the mass bitchers, not directed at you. Sorry 'bout that. But the mere fact that you had my magazine to even wipe your butt with in the first place would make me happy, as long as you had it! I know the situation you're talking about in regards to Pat...that guy he refered to is now "Super" into rods.

 

I used to subscribe to every mag that would show a car picture. now I'm down to one R&C. I'm buying every issue of street rodder (don't know why I don't subscribe) I also buy every issue of Rodders Journal, never subscribed because I like to choose which cover suits me. now they flip front to rear on the covers. I still don't want the post office to fold my good mags and it gives me a reason to stop by Wescotts.
As far as the young guns I just bought 3 rod subscribtions for my 11 year old grand son's birthday and I think that will hook him for life, R&C wasn't on that list though,Hmmm
Hot Rod used to be the rodders bible and I only have 3 issues in the last two years, they have about as much interest for me as MotorTrend.
this is not a rant but to tell the truth "The Hamb" has all the magazines beat to hell as far as information and reader input goes. If I just had a computer in the bathroom I could quit buying all magazines!

 

The proudest moment for me was the picture of my 54 Chevy in your rag. The reason I was proud is that the caption said something like " Kevin knows how to have lots of fun with a car without spending much money. His 54 shows it" or something like that. I built the car to enjoy because I got tired of spending tons of cash on shiny shit. The point was accomplished.

 

Scribe,
I for one am interested in your modified project.
I'm glad to see they dropped the price from their original idea.
Keep it coming, Dan.
r

 

Some months, it takes a couple days, some months, it takes ten minutes, but I still subscribe!

I like R&C, especially the concept/art stuff...

My Rod and Custom complaint? Have the packaging guys quit using two-part epoxy on the "Your subscription is about to expire!" overwrap!!! It destroys the cover!!!

 

Geez guys, ruin it for us who don't get it till later. Sounds like it's just a quick read month. That's OK, cuz usually after a quick read month comes a really good issue. And yeah, what 38Chev says about the expiring thing!

 

You babies who are bitching about R & C now don't remember when it was 1/3 models and 1/2 go-karts and minibikes.
Is the next issue to bitch about going to be the April issue which is traditionally the "How to Paint your car" issue?
I can hear it now...
" You only did how-tos on that over-priced Sikens paint, us hillbilly trailer trash can't afford...
Waaa!
How come you didn't do an article on the proper way to shake a can of Rustoleum?"
At least R & C gives us some of the Custom and Kustom car coverage that CR should be doing, but won't.
If ya don't like it, don't buy it, don't renue it.
That's what I did with CR. after finally finding out the "new direction" isnt the direction I'd hoped it would be I just quit buying it, simple as that.

 

[quotesome kats around here have to rethink what "traditional" is.
And if you cant figure that out....Hit the fuckin road.

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I thought it was ironic that Scribe was building a kit car and had it delivered assembled. I would have done the same thing in his position. But who cares? I bet it is bad ass when it is finished and Dan, I hope you thrash the hell out of it. Those things look fun. (and they really aren't my thing)

Did anyone see the 2 Deuce coupes in SRM this month? The 5 window is the real deal and the 3 window is glass, both black. They are both very nice, but the glass one is done up very traditionally (earlier style) and it definitely has the look. I'd take it anyday over the real 5 window. It speaks to my design aesthetic in spades. (Saw Butt Reynold's car in there too)

Hopefully my R&C will come today or tomorrow.

 

If only the Omnipresent DrJ could come out with his very own magazine, the hot rod/custom world would "never" have a thing to bitch about...it would be bound perfection!

 

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How come you didn't do an article on the proper way to shake a can of Rustoleum?"


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Now that's fuckin' funny.

 

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Out of curiousity, which brand of pomade do you wear to match your super cool hot rod?

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Which magazine is most likely to think that deserves an answer?
(none I hope.)

RF, you're fun to pick on because there's so much material to work with.
I think you did the people on this traditional rods and customs board a disservice back when you became editor of CR by saying something like; There's going to be big changes in CR! Without saying those changes were AWAY FROM traditional customs and not toward them. What I didn't like was the insinuation that WE were going to like the change.
I think you do a great job of putting out a smaller version of "STREET CUSTOMS" but if I have a newsrack choice I'd take the latter because there's more 20" wheel ads in it to slobber over (that'll be the day)

I don't think I (or anyone else) could put out a monthly of even quarterly magazine that would be my "own magazine, the hot rod/custom world would "never" have a thing to bitch about...it would be bound perfection! "
because there aren't enough examples of cars out there to feature that would fit "my" criteria, month after month.
I realize sometimes a magazine must stoop to mediocrity in order to have anything at all.
That's what a clued in staff is for but then that costs money, and that has to come from ads.
But that's never been my beef.
I know it's tough. I won't knock you for that. I'll even admit I like the way you write, but what you write about just doesn't interest me.

By the way, you're wipe your ass with it, comment is what opened this bag of shit again, and caused me to even want to bring up the CR letters here in this thread about R & C. I think magazine editors should exhibit a more restrained, conservative public presence.

 

I don't come here representing my magazine, which is why I don't defend it (anymore)...I know the majority of people on this message board aren't into its format, so it would be a costant losing battle. That's cool with me. I argue for/against the publishing industry simply because of my vantage point. Take my comments how you see fit, but save the PC ethics and all that.

 

I like it all, R&C, Custom Rodder, Street Rodder, Rodders Journal, Hop Up, CKD etc. I have alot of time for all the people behind them past and present also. Ganahl, Dan Kahn, DeEtte Crow, Coonan, Geoff Miles, Rob Fortier, Jerry Weesner, Brennan, Shelton, Walker, Mark Morton etc.

We are all individual and like different things and magazines have to cater for a wide market. Working in a magazine environment can be very enjoyable but also thankless.

Also, people need to have more of an open mind. Sure we all like traditional but it doesnt mean that we can not enjoy ultra hi tech. Pat Ganahl wrote an editorial for Rodders Journal that described all the different trends, styles and tastes in rodding and how he enjoyed it all as well as other things in life out side rodding. If you dont enjoy of have some interest in a wide variety it makes for a very boring person as he conclude with in his editorial.

Take a look at Baskerville - he wrote about everything from beaters to Boyd builts! The magazine guys do a fine job - sometimes we take it for granted as we sit in our little world!

 

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Perhaps. A certain amount of professionalism must prevail. But in the end, they are human beings that take this hobby just as seriously and just as passionately as the rest of us. Speaking as a creative, it's hard to not take all the bitching personally.

 

I feel all warm and fuzzy! Love is in the air!

 

hahaha. yeah scribe. black primer and whitewalls thats me alright. jackass. have you ever done any custom bodywork before? have you ever sprayed candy paint before? i've built plenty of model kits man, thing is i was only 12 so dont have any pictures to post for you. maybe you could ask skratch about my dp90? he striped it for me maybe he could clue you in? young gun.

 

I think a circle jerk is in order to help us all "let go" of some of this tension... I mean really, guys... tossing off does help.

HA-dee-de-uh-oh-mmmmm-mmmmmm...dgeeesh-eeeeesh-eeesh
COME ON FUNNY FEELING!!
Sam.

 

hahaha. nothing like a circle jerk

 

...and Rob... I think we need to be saying "Love is in your hair"... it would make us all a little less tense.
Sam.

 

No, I meant between me a Ryan...for real. Screw everybody else!!! Actual bearing grease is in my hair--redoing my frontend right now!

 

i like gear oil better.

 

Year, 90W does have that "assy" aroma that the chicks dig!

 

What really struck me about the last issue of Custom Rodder, was that Rob wrote like 80% of it! Sure, it's not the thickest automotive publication on the stands, but for ONE GUY to be responsible for so much of any ONE magazine shows an impressive level of dedication and enthusiasm!

I like Custom Rodder, it's a nice little diversion from the rust and primer that I love so much, and it offers a peek at what OTHER folks are doing with their older iron! I dig a little variety, and the writing is better than some of what I've seen elsewhere!

(So, how DO you find time for working on your OWN stuff, Rob??!!)

Good job!

 

It's bi-monthly and just over 80 pages, it's really not that much. Project-wise, I'm lucky to juggle one at a time (and lately I've been "making" Cole work on it!). I've been spending more time on my Panhead than anything else.

 

Cool! (Already looking forward to the next issue!)

 

a magazine wont elevate you to know it all status... READ A BOOK, DUMB ROUNDEYES. it is a good intro to the terms, so when you come on the HAMB you can say choice words and look cool