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  1. choppintops
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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    choppintops
    BANNED

    Soon, NSRA will stand for No Street Rods Allowed.
     
  2. bchrismer
    Joined: Jun 1, 2007
    Posts: 2,818

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    I just updated my long dormant web site to help in the effort to get the NSRA to reconsider. I also forwarded a copy of the letter that I handed to Bubba Bugg to the NSRA's major sponsors.

    It was interesting, this past weekend, that most of the NSRA field reps that I spoke with, even though they would tow the party line, after talking with them, they would admit that they personally didn't agree with the decision.

    I am not trying to undermine the organization, but I am doing what I can to voice my opinion to the NSRA, and will use the resources that I have to rally the members that I can to do the same.
     
  3. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    Funny how hard it is to "guess" the way to go in a consumer-driven business like NSRA. When the word got out that the great big club everyone was joining in the 70s was a business, there was a little stir, and then the reality that had these men not risked their own money to fund the startup of NSRA where would rodding have gone?
    NSRA and the original owner group of it "saved" the hobby! The magazines dedicated to rodding were going away, there was no cohesion a**** rodders like that in the race world, and then NSRA stepped up and made a whole new ball game of it. Fun events of a size never seen before but affordable and history making. I'll never forget the thrill of seeing over 2500 old cars in one place in Tulsa 1973, and over 15000 in one place in St.Paul some 20 years later.
    Sure, things change, economic forces mean altering old rules, and sometimes over-reaction happens. This is that time. Hopefully someone in the group will wake up, smell the old car smell again and ditch this crazy acceptance of modern iron that the bulk of rodders don't think fits the early rodding tradition.
    If not, well they had a good run for 40 years, and will be remembered more for the good they did than the bad they became, adios and Godspeed, the rodding world is waiting, are you the one to make the move?
     
  4. Well I must say I love almost all kinds of personalized cars. But, each has their place. Here in Bakersfield we also have a lowrider nationals event as well as a NSRA event and they are not the same. I love the cars at both but I wont leave my car unattended at one of the Lowrider show. Last year they even had a murder at the show (most years it is only a gang fight) and locked in all the entrants for they could search every car and everyone. This is what they have invited in in So-Cal and it realy is not a great idea. They get all upset over flame throwers, reven up the motors, and barking the tires and trow the entrant out, well let me tell you it wont be so easy with this group of people. At the NSRA event we can leave out our chairs and canopies but they won't be there if you leave them at the Lowrider show. This all happens at the same fairgrouds as the NSRA show. They have put into place all kinds of restrictions at the LRS,now won't even let the cars go in out at the Lowrider show, once the car is in it is there, if you want to go to your hotel are to lunch you walk out and get a taxi. If you don't think they will show up you are mistaken these guys love to go show and party and a $25-35 entry fee is cheap. These old guys in their red white and blue shirts better get some young guys in blue uniforms with guns for security. So it is not about the cars as I love to look at them they are great with lots of hard work and creativity but the people that follow the cars are a problem the NSRA is not prepared for. I really like the customs like the Santa Maria show has and they fit in well with hotrods, so late 50's early 60's would be cool and leave out the misfits in the rivi's and monty carlos. I do so pitty the fool who comes to Bakersfield and thinks all is well at the NSRA event and finds out he has traveled to a gang reunion. Now don't think that everyone who goes to LRN is a gang banger as that is not true, I go myself, but they are there and it is not nearly the same as the NSRA Western Nats. So I don't know what it is like in other areas where NSRA has shows but they really, really missed the mark here in Bake-town. Useless
     
  5. hotrodladycrusr
    Joined: Sep 20, 2002
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    Here is what they list on their website as their sponsors with email addresses if anyone wants to send an email

    Official Sponsors

    [​IMG]Hall of Fame Quality: AMSOIL formulates a wide selection of synthetic lubricating oils. Founded in 1972 by a jet fighter squadron commander, Al Amatuzio, AMSOIL continues to be the leader in synthetic lubrication technology. www.amsoil.com

    [​IMG]Manufacturing U-Joints for over 90 Years: Founded in 1914, Borgeson began by manufacturing universal joints for lathes and milling machines. Today, Borgeson is the leading manufacturer and supplier of aftermarket steering and universal joints in the Street Rod, Racing, Specialty Automotive and Pickup Truck markets. www.borgeson.com

    [​IMG]Quality…Plain and Simple: When Lokar began operations in 1988, the goals were simply to make a better product than what was available. And now their commitment is to provide the automotive aftermarket enthusiast with the best possible products and service. www.lokar.com

    [​IMG]Refinish Systems from PPG are Second-to-None: As the world leader in automotive finishes, PPG has the global resources to offer the latest coating technologies in a full range of systems and products to meet the needs of just about any paint application and environment. www.ppgrefinish.com

    [​IMG]The Most Respected Name in Quality Cooling Systems: Specializing in Coolant and Air management packages for the Street Rod and High Performance Automotive field, Walker Radiator Works is recognized as the world leader in cooling system packages. www.walkerradiatorworks.com
     
  6. bchrismer
    Joined: Jun 1, 2007
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    Don't forget Snead Insurance.

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    <p>Download a Sneed, Robinson &amp; Gerber Insurance Application
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    [​IMG]The members of the National Street Rod ***ociation® (NSRA) are fortunate to have Sneed Insurance Company in their corner when it comes to all types of insurance coverage for their vehicles. At a time when it was next to impossible to insure a specialty vehicle, the concerned folks at Sneed Insurance worked with officials of the NSRA to create the type of coverage those involved in the hobby needed to continue enjoying their vehicles in the manner for which they were built, while having the peace of mind that should a loss occur it was covered.
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    Creating a specialty vehicle insurance program was not an easy task, but the Sneed Insurance staff persisted, and after a brief trial period in selected states, the program went national in 1980. At that time liability coverage was not available, but over the years the program has advanced in many ways, including the availability of a full coverage (comprehensive and liability) policy.
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    Sneed Insurance Company can be reached by calling 800/619-7827, or write: Sneed Insurance, Sneed Building, 6645 Stage Road, Memphis, TN 38134, www.sneedinsurance.com.
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    And here's the list of contributors to the 2009 Give Away Car:

    Thanks to These Contributors (I didn't edit out the above mentioned):

    Amsoil
    Blueprint Engines
    California Roadster Company
    Coker Tire
    Danny’s Rod Shop
    Edelbrock Corporation
    Flaming River Industries
    Gennie Shifter
    Glenn’s Auto Body
    Glide Engineering
    Hoosier Hood
    Lime Works Speed Shop
    New Port Engineering
    Nu-Relics
    Painless Performance
    Performance Automatic Transmission
    PPG Industries
    Street and Performance
    Tanks, Inc.
    Total Cost Involved
    Undercar Specialty Warehouse
    Unique Corporation
    Vintique, Inc.
    Walker Radiator
     
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  7. Trucked Up
    Joined: Nov 6, 2006
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    Just my opinion. But the NSRA isn't going to listen to me now any more than they did when I voiced my concern over these supposedly 1932 mail order coupes that was scooping up every award they handed out.

    Now before you start forming an opinion about were I'm coming from please note that I have never owned anything close to a '32 coupe. The oldest (car) I own is a '64 Rambler. Nor do I know a single person that ever has.

    Where I am coming from is the love that I have for the time and effort put in to a true original Amercian Steel vehicle. Then to see the majority of accolades go to some 2006/1932 gl*** bodied vehicle.

    Not to say that I don't like the new gl*** deals, I do, just not in the way I do the original 60-70 year old versions.

    Now to the point, and it has been stated already. It appears that the NSRA is not creating enough revenue or at least not the profit they wish to make. IMHO I feel that choosing not to attend future events speaks much louder than pe***ions. NSRA is gambling that for every pe***on signature there will be 2-3 new members added.

    I personaly know several major vendors that have been setting up at the Nsra events for over 15 years. They all express to me their concern over this change and a prepration to look for other sources of exposure.

    In this case I feel the NSRA will initally get a spike in attendance only to fall off after the new crowd has come and seen. Much like NASCAR did when they threw the old time race fans under the bus for the new crowd. Then and only then will they realize how dedicated their base is, or was.

    As for me I have always wished the cutoff date to be in the '50's. But my voice was never herd. So I practice my right as a consumer. On each and every weekend of a NSRA event you will find something else going on somewhere. Then make your choice. The results will show.

    This is not to say I don't attend Nsra events. I do a couple a year. I just am not sure what I will be doing in 2010 during K'ville and L'ville weekends.

    So I like many of you are curious to see how this all plays out. But you can bet I will not be sitting at home watching. I'll be somewhere enjoying the people, the rides and the drive.:D
     
  8. 29nash
    Joined: Nov 6, 2008
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    29nash
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    from colorado

    Yes, the genere expansion will change things. For some it's bad, for most that just live old cars, it's for the better. For those that don't like the change, I hear over and over. "Include MY CAR, then don't let anybody else in" I don't get it.

    I might be 72 years old, my cars are 80, but I ain't a Dinosaur. Two weeks ago at the HOLY CROSS ABBEY show in CANON CITY(VMCCA, if it matters, nice people are nice people, whether they belong to VCCA, VMCCA, NSRA, OR WHATEVER......) anyhow, I parked next to a couple of newer cars, a '52 Chivvy on one side, and a 60-something Cadillac on the other. We got along just fine!

    All day long, (already!), I never heard one single dumb-*** word of whine about how the Show Producers had ****ed up, or what venue the cars they had allowed in.....! I simply welcomed the opportunity to bring my car out for the day and socialize.

    Funny thing about that, bringing to the forefront the dilemma that NSRA has with the venue expansion. So, yes, it's opening up new ground, they are going to find out that including more venue is going to require that they attract more people with an open mind. That might be a challenge, because I wonder if there enough of those left in our society to fill up a show field?
     
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  9. fuel10922
    Joined: Dec 6, 2006
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    If this goes on as the NSRA has planned. This will be my last Street Rod Nats. All the guys that I run with have decided to make the Frog Follies which we attend every year any way our new August home.
     
  10. bchrismer
    Joined: Jun 1, 2007
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    I had informed, via e-mail, Sneed Insurance, of my letter to the NSRA. I received a personal phone call, around lunch, from Sneed. As I appreciated what the lady had to say, she wasn't successful in changing my direction.

    I have updated my avatar with my new window sticker that I got in Springfield.
     
  11. hotrodladycrusr
    Joined: Sep 20, 2002
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    Would you have felt the same way if you were parked next to a 1980 Yugo or 1976 MonteCarlo with 24 inch DONK wheels blasting rap music outta his speakers?

    1952 and 1960 something is a far cry from 70's and 80's cars.

    (ps, I didn't realize you were that old :D )
     
  12. rustyford40
    Joined: Nov 20, 2007
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    from Mass Bay

    We have a N.S.R.A. CLUB. YOU MUST BELONG TO N.S.R.A. TO BELONG TO THE CLUB IT WAS STARTED IN 79. WE HAVE THE ONLY INSPECTION TEAM IN THE STATE. AND WE ARE PISSED. OUR STATE REP HAS NOT BEEN TOLD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ****. I,M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CLUB BUT THE ONES I HAVE TALKED TO SAY THY WILL WALK AWAY FROM N.S.R.A. IF THIS IS WHAT THY DO. I HOPE THY WILL AT LEAST LIMET IT TO AMERICAN MADE ONLY. BUT WITH THAR THINKING IT WILL BE A TUNER HEAVEN AT YORK NEXT YEAR.
     
  13. Trucked Up
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    Trucked Up
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    Hell with being parked beside them I can't deal with just pulling up to a light beside them..................:D
     
  14. hotrodA
    Joined: Sep 12, 2002
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    RIP NSRA. You were good to us, and for us, over the last 40 years.

    But if you continue with this 30 YEAR BULLS**T, 2009 will mark my last year.

    I've supported you for OVER 30 years, but this is insane.

    I'm an old, hard core, traditional rodder and I'm pissed.
     
  15. olddrags
    Joined: Oct 19, 2006
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    from ky

    I agree with truckedup. We are at least fortunate to have the Frog Follies nearby in Evansville! Shade,cheap eats and lots of fun!!
     
  16. D-fens
    Joined: Aug 30, 2007
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    D-fens
    Member
    from Huntsville

    Could somebody clear something up for me - a few years ago there used to be a Street Machine Nationals as well as a Street Rod Nationals.

    What ever happened to the promoter or sanction who did the street machine events? Unless I'm mistaken Car Craft mag was a major sponsor of these shows and committed a lot of ink to covering them.
     
  17. brandon
    Joined: Jul 19, 2002
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    when was the last time you saw a chevette on the street....? (they are all on the dirt track or drag strip around here) :D i do know of a pinto thats a daily driver though....:eek:
     
  18. Good thing the 30 yr rule was not in effect in the fifties, none of my cars woud have made the cut, Denise's Olds out, any one with a Model A, outa here!! Grow up folks the world changes, it has to. We won't be here that long and someone else takes over, NSRA will change, Harvey's broiler ain't gonna be the same, no matter how bad you want it. The AACA is aging and must find new members and some of those guys sound just like you, rather let it die than change some. You guys are not traditional, hell back in the day we were just glad to have a nice set of wheels and friends that had a ride to pal around with. I don't think I ever heard anyone say someones car was not welcome. Sure was a lot more tolerance back then!! Fact is the hot rodders were the most tolerant.
     
  19. Trucked Up
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    Mrs. Trucked Up is fixing the popcorn as I type....................:D
     
  20. roundvalley
    Joined: Apr 10, 2005
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    Wow: I bet the Safety Inspection Teams are going to have Fun!
     
  21. rd martin
    Joined: Nov 14, 2006
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    rd martin
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    from indiana

    well, i went off the list denise pulled up, and i emailed each one of the sponsors on the list. asking for there help to atleast help change the cut off date. i hope that anyone else that has the same throught of the 1980 date being totally out of line, to please spread the word to have others email these businesses , i dont think walker will sell to many radiators to the 1980 CROWD!
     
  22. hotrod-Linkin
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
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    simple...if it bothers you..don't be a part of it...if it doesn't go spend your money...i don't care what anyone thinks..i'm covered both ways.
     
  23. Mopar34
    Joined: Aug 8, 2006
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    I've actually enjoyed the NSRA events more in the past few yeers because more and more traditional rods are not only coming but get awards too. Used to be there were only a few hotrods a**** the sea of streetrods. :(

    Being a 50's custom owner I would have been happier if NSRA had limited the admission to pre- 1973 cars instead of a rolling 30 year plan. Guess I will give a couple events a try in 2010 and then decide what to do. Might as well be fair about.:cool:
     
  24. terrarodder
    Joined: Sep 9, 2005
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    terrarodder
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    from EASTERN PA

    Not always with a car, but I've been going to York since NSRA moved there, and I will go next year to see what its like. That might the last time, but then I'm 73, that might be the last time.
     
  25. Terry
    Joined: Jul 3, 2002
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    I finally have a place to take my '79 Z!

    I really don't have a problem with it. I mean just think, a car built in 1980 is a fairly old car to my 16 year old son. And still able to be bought a decent price. Perhaps this is a great way to bring in young people without the funds to play with a rusty ****ped out 30 somthing that cost 5,000 to buy and another 20,000 to build.

    Personally if I was setting the rules I would think along the lines of the way Texas does antique plates. 25 years old, it's a antique, if yours is 24, just one more year and your in. Ok so maybe not 25 year limit, but you get the idea.

    And one more thought.... take a look at Good Guys Orange County affair. All years allowed. If you've ever been you'll have to admit it's a great show.

    But A Quote I read a long time ago here on the HAMB comes to mind the most.

    "I like cars"
     
  26. Nick32vic
    Joined: Jul 17, 2003
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    Haha, i find this kind of funny because as I was reading through this I noticed that NSRA window sticker in HotRodA's avatar was mine. Im 21, I am the future (ok maybe a small part of it) and I doubt that I will attend any NSRA events if they go through with this. There are PLENTY of other shows I can spend my money on. Ive picked NSRA events over others in the past becuase I like looking at 11,000 pre 1949 vehicles. If im gonna spend money on an out of town show, im gonna get my moneys worth. By 'money's worth' im talking about events with soul and character. NSRA CAN'T add SOUL to their shows (Like the Pileup, Rust Revival, Jalopy Showdown, Lonestar Round Up, etc.) just by uping the year cutoff. In fact, it will make it go the opposite way.
     
  27. Django
    Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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    Django
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    from Chicago

    So you're 72 and you can properly use "dissin'" in a sentence. That's hilarious! :D ;)

    Here's a Donk. I doubt anyone with a Donk knows who the NSRA even is, but you never know. I stopped to help a '72 cutl*** donk on the side of the road. They were appreciative. It still is a ridiculous looking style though.

    [​IMG]
     
  28. Weasel
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    Totally flawed logic - in 1960 a '32 Ford was 28 years old. In 1980 a Yugo was a new POS - not 28 years, old as the '32 ford was in 1960. So it is not any kind of comparison at all. In 2008 a Yugo was a 28 year old old POS and 2008 was a long way from 1960.
     
  29. Hank37
    Joined: Mar 28, 2007
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    At one of the Nats last fall I parked next to a late model Mopar tried striking up a conversation with him and he just walked away from me I felt he was upset because I parked my old rod next to him !
     
  30. Hi Hank,
    There was a couple of local guys near Coatesville that were friends, until one that was a trophy hunter told his friend not to park next to him. Needless to say they were not friends anymore. Shame all car people can't share the joy!!
     
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