NSRA Questions & Answers On The Plus Years

I recieved this in a email today ...

Questions & Answers On The Plus Years

Why did you pick 30 years and not 20 years? Why have it roll up a year every year?

Why NOT use a cut off date instead like 1972 or 1975. At this rate it won’t be long and we’ll have all the Rice Rockets out there with us!

#1 – 30 YEARS

#2 – CUT-OFF In 2004, when the National Street Rod Association announced the current Richmond Nationals and the former Milwaukee Nationals. It was decided to use a thirty years and older entry requirement. At the time eligible vehicles were 1975 and older. It was also chosen for the 2007 Golden State Nationals, Northeast Nationals and Southeast Nationals. For 2010 the same thirty years and older entry requirement has been chosen making all of our events the same.

For information…

As points of reference: In 1970, a twenty-two year entry requirement was used (1948 and older vehicles). The eligibility requirement has been in increased by eight years when comparing beginning (1970) to beginning (2005, 2007 and 2010).Of twenty-six states randomly selected, but to include states we hold events in, twenty-one states are at twenty-five years, one is a twenty-six year, two are at thirty years and two are at thirty-five years for DMV issued antique license plates (called classic in one, collector in one, historical in two and pioneer in one).

A cut-off date was discussed but not chosen. Eventually, in another twenty, thirty or forty years, a change in the entry requirement would have to be made again.Having nothing to do with our decision, mention is made that the
respected Syracuse Nationals has a 2009 eligibility requirement of 1980 and older.

Was this decision based on Money?

　#3 MONEY

Money is not the issue. If it was we could…

…Increase any and/or all fees (entry, membership, exhibitor, spectator, swap meet, womens world; et cetera).

… discontinue the event tumblers, Fellow Pages, Safety Program, SRN Top

Participant Prize, Sunday Sweep Stakes and /or Super Prize Program.

Aren’t Street Rods Pre-48 cars?

#4 – STREET ROD

For forty years NSRA has recognized a vehicle 1948 and older or manufactured to resemble a vehicle 1948 and older as a street rod. Others have and will continue to broaden the definition. Knowing our past, is why our event names will change to include the word "Plus". An example is: Street Rod Nationals Plus.

What are we going to call this new organization now?

#5 – NAME

The same as/since 1970- National Street Rod Association and /or an acronym of

NSRA.

How come I wasn’t asked about this decision? How come I didn’t get to vote on this?

#6 – NOT ASKED, NO VOTE

We have been hearing from our members to make a change and what was once the minority has become the majority. Asking not "if" but "when".

Is this decision set in stone? What changes can I expect to be made?

#7 - SET IN STONE

For 2010- vehicles thirty years old and older will be accepted for participation. NSRA has not had any issues with this requirement since we began using it in 2005.

Has NSRA sold to new owners? Is that why these changes have come about?

#8- OWNERSHIP

NSRA’s ownership has not changed.

9. What will happen when the Boom Boxes show up? What about the cars that jump

up and down?

#9 – UNDESIRABLE PARTICIPANT ACTIVITY

Will be addressed as it has been for thirty-nine plus years. Examples include but are not limited to burnouts, open headers, flame throwers, high output stereo systems and street rodders showing pornographic movies by the headquarters hotel pool in 1976.

Where will I park when all the newer cars show up? What if there is No Parking?

#10- PARKING

Participants will be able to park in any area available for participant parking, the same as now and in the past. NSRA has never had an event where a participant was turned away for lack of parking. We will continue to use our event facilities to optimize space for our participants.

I have heard that if I bring my newer car to the fairgrounds it will be vandalized?

#11- VANDALIZED VEHICLES

We cannot prevent damage to anyone’s personal property due to the willful intent of an individual. We have, to our knowledge, never had this occur. We also believe and hope the high regard we have for our members/participants will not be diminished by any act of vandalism.

I am ok with opening up some of the events, jut NOT the Nationals!

#12 – NOT THE STREET ROD NATIONALS

We do not believe it would be proper to ask someone to be a member and attend any or all of our events with the exception of the biggest event we produce.

Will we allow foreign cars in to our event?

#13- FOREIGN VEHICLES

Foreign vehicles have always been accepted at our events. Four example would be Anglias, Jaguars, Mecedes-Benz and Rolls Royce – of which some have been at our most recent events.

 

My NSRA jacket is over 32 years old, and as of a few months ago I still wore it now and then. Guess it's time to throw it away.

 

I have supported NSRA since the 70's but come november when my membership expires they will have one less member,,

they are worried about all us old guys dying off,,,but it appears that with this new policy they are killing off that membership,,,a lot of guys and gals won't renew.

I can park next to 80's models in the Wallmart parking lot. HRP

 

So what's with the York , Pa show ?
Who is allowed into that show ?
If you make a rule for one show then it show be for ALL YOUR SHOWS ! That's bad PR to allow a car at one show and not the other that is sponsored and put on by NSRA .
I haven't entered a car since 1972 in Md State Faigrounds ! That was a great show !

In York last year there was real junk ass R-rods so I guess the Street Rod standards have really lowered ! Barb wire and all !

So explain in a easy answer for all to understand , in 2010 what is the cut off date for your shows ? Do you have to be a member to enter the shows ?

 

I love the NSRA shows and the club, I'll be there when I can! I don't see any big deal with the rule changes?

 

Looks like they have made up their minds. They could have done a survey with the members that HAVE supported them over the years. I talked to a NSRA state rep. last week and asked him how are you going to tell what is 1980 or 85 model at the gate of the nats. in louisville. He just laughed and said, Hell just let them all in. He dont like it either. See Ya........

 

This is no longer the America that I grew up in.

 

If they think it is going to draw a younger crowd, boy are they WRONG! Myself and my peers that grew up going to these events with our parents are just as against the change as our parents are. Sure we all have newer cars we could drive but that's not why we have gone to NSRA shows in the past.

Oh and what about people who have lifetime memberships? People that paid that money to be a LIFETIME member of a pre-48 organization? Do you plan to refund those unhappy with the new rule change?

(I write these comments hoping it crosses the eyeballs of someone out there in internet land that has a say to stand up and do something, I know NITROFC is just the messenger and I appreciate the update!)

 

Or Balls! HRP

 

Our club is a N.S.R.A. club you must belong to N.S.R.A. to be a member. I am going to York we have a meeting that week I will bring up dropping out of N.S.R.A. The guys I have talked to say this is the last year thy are going to York or Burlington

 

I really enjoy the York event-teal and pink street rods and all. I can always enjoy the craftsmanship. But, I can't imagine wading though oceans of Pintos to find the hotrods. Why then, make a year cutoff at all? Just make it an open show. Not many folks waxing nostalgic about cars from the 80's.

I think NSRA has made a bad, maybe fatal error in judgement and it will be really hard to close the door again.

 

HRP wrote:

Yeah and you can do it for FREE too!

Last time I checked, WalMart didn't charge for membership or registrations for their parking lots. At least, not yet.

 

I'm not renewing my membership.......

 

I was a member from the mid 70's until the 90's..........NSRA is now the *Gold Chainer's* association........hardly many truly *traditional* hot rods come to YORK, which is the closest meet I could attend.......I let my membership lapse years ago and will never rejoin........notice, I said *never*.........

CB

 

Like 5Window said ... I've always enjoyed the York event too, especially since more and more traditional hotrods were attending. Only good thing about the change, is that if I don't feel like taking the 34 for some reason I can take the 57 Olds, which happens to be the more comfortable of the two.

For the price of admission and or spectator tickets, I really don't think that there will be a lot of tuner folk there. They tend to like either free events or shows specializing in their kind of toys. Not many will want to pay the price of admission just to hang with us old timers.

However, the Pinto, Chevette and Mustang owners might show up in force.

 

I guess I should have listened to my wife !
I have a 55 Ford Fairlane and like it allot but couldn't get into the NSRA shows . So I bought a 37 Plymouth p/u so I could attend those shows also . Now I can't wait till my wife finds out that the NSRA changed the years ! I'll never hear the end of this one !
Well I still have to rebuild it but that really sucks ! All that money I could have saved and put into my 55 Ford or maybe another car .

Just plain sucks ! Just goes to show you ....The good times are really gone now !

 

I got the renewal notices for Rodder's Journal & NSRA last week. Guess which ONE that I'm going to renew? I had already decided to drop NSRA, but their new direction made it much easier for me!

Jim

 

anxious tro see who comes up with the new club! count me in.

 

There are plenty of used car lots on Rt. 30, just stop and buy any late 70's car on the lot and you are an instant "street rodder" next year!

 

It's an expensive weekend to do NSRA shows. Use that money and time to support events you like, or you want to see succeed. I'm skipping my usual York day trip and heading for Motor Speedway NJ at Englishtown Saturday.

 

Just let it go. They are standing behind their horrible decision and will continue to stand behind it until they realise they have sealed their fate. By then it will be too late. Just accept it.

 

Been a member for 18+ years and have attended every "Nats" since Columbus. They have sealed their fate and I will not be part of it. This will be the last year I'll spend the money to travel half way across the country to attend the Nats or any other NSRA event.

 

I will trade my 37 Ply p/u and get a Pinto that's a hopper with a Honda motor in it ?
NOW I can get in !

 

Glad to see folks supporting an institution that has supplied many years of enjoyment for millions of people! So what!, there will be newer cars allowed... ya scared people will pay more attention to their ride and not yours? Cant share your nostalgic expression with anyone who doesnt own a pre-48 vehicle? What about the people who attend this event looking foward to the streetrods, but end up disappointed cuz most of the "dyed in the wool" rodders have left cuz they dissagree with the cut-off year? I for one will support the York Nats best I can and stick with the NSRA through thick n thin. I look foward to sharing the event with my Kustom owning buddies...

jeese, get over yourselves

 

When I became a NSRA member I didn't own a pre. 48 car. I joined to support what I liked in hot rods, we have (wife and I) now have cars from the 20s to the 60s, Louisville is our only NSRA show we do now, been to others but Louisville is our favroit. I'm taking the wait and see how Louisville goes in '10, then see if we stay members.

 

The america that our parents are in isn't the same as the one they grew up in either....things change, even the complexion of our hobby!!! I beleive that our cars are still sacred, buy newer models are now considered historic. We need to adapt!!!!

 

My statement was a bit "tongue in cheek" humor. It's cars like your Olds that give me some hope that this whole thing will work out. I've seen it many times and would enjoy seeing it at an NSRA event. I just hope it's not parked next to an air bagged, Lambo doored Honda Accord with coffee can exhaust and 3,000 watt stereo. Adaptation can only go so far

 

Brian Brennan's For Starters column in the newest Street Rodder includes the interview with Vernon Walker. It's good reading. I too hope that we, that have some modicum of taste and customizing restraint can influence the wayward punks. Yeah yeah, we're gonna see some of the shit we don't like(hell that happened before) But there are some later model cars that would look absolutely bitchin with some traditional custom tricks thrown at them!!!! I've been eying up a 77 Lincoln Mark V....shaved, slammed and with those big fuckin bumpers sliced and diced to tuck in to the body. How about a custom 71 Rivi !!!!!?????

 

I don't think that the guys supporting this new rule really get what is happening and why we are upset. I've been a member since I was 20 and am 35 now. It took me a long time to afford to build a pre 49 vehicle, but man the first time I drove my 39 Ford through those gates to an NSRA event it was awsome. Yes we could accept the new rules, and it's not a snobby or gold chainer thing either. I prefer 48 and older vehicles, I make special plans to go to some shows that have the pre 49 cut off. If I want a full mix of things I can go to any local show or cruise and get the full mix. I paid my membership fees etc, so I can be in a setting I prefer. So with the new rules going into effect, I'll just attend some of the fast growing Hot Rod evenks, like HCPU, or Rust Revival etc. No membership fees with them and I like most of the cars that are there. There will still be a few pre 49 events to attend around the country, and I bet they will really boom next year. I notice WAY more disgust with this decision than support. I also heard that NSRA is going to do away with thier Legislative support, this is straight from my local rep, so it's just another reason not to continue my support. I'll remain a GoodGuys member, no reason to support 2 groups catering to the newer stuff, Most GG's events are pre 73 I belive. My NSRA membership ends for good next month. I'll just put that money else where.

 

As a long time NSRA member I take exception to there decisions and for one will not renew my membership. Changing the rules that have been accepted all these years is not a good move. Kind of reminds me of "I love America, Join me and help me change it" Currently America is at its lowest with Homes,Jobs,money,security ect and it's really a bad time to want to kill an icon as we have known it all these years. I will gracefully bow out for you followers so you can have your Hondas and Renaults and jumping beans to entertain you for a price.