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NSRA Questions & Answers On The Plus Years

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by NITROFC, Jun 2, 2009.

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  1. Thanks for that heads-up on the interview w/ Vernon Walker. I'll have to pick up the new issue and read it. That would be the first time I will have gotten a chance to hear his side of this debate. I'm trying to remain positive. I don't really have issue with tri-five Chevies, shoebox and later 50's Fords, and the full bodied 60's cars but once they open the doors to anything "30 and back" how do they exclude the tuners and other stuff that will inevitably follow? Hopefully they just won't find it interesting. Like I said, I'm trying my best to remain open minded. It's not easy.
     
  2. Wait until you parked next to one of those hoppers and he wants to show off to the crowd. I was at a show near Philly and this 63 Chevy started to hop 4 foot off the ground and after about a minute the gas tank straps broke and the tank falls out . everybody scatters and there sits my 37 , lucky it didn't start on fire it would've taken out a few cars with it. The fire dept. arrived and that stopped all that for the day. You know this is gonna happen at the Nats. can you say law suit?
     
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  3. bigolds
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    I get it...I too was just 22 when I got my first 37 Chevy and had it together enough to drive it to York. Yeah the feeling of exhuberance when I drove through the gates was palpable. The problem is that we are getting older and many young people are finding it impossible to do what we did back then. Quite frankly, older sheet metal is getting very expensive and they can't afford it. Truth is that the gow jobs from back in the hey day were the not so old cast off used junk they could afford!!! Shit, after the war a Duece was only 15 years old!!!!! It's what they could get. Our young peoples "street rods" are the cars that are 30 years old. The Hirohata Merc was a new car when it was cut up...would you have had a problem parking your hot rod next to that back in 53 ????? Guys...it's all relative and we are getting relatively older!!!!
     
  4. bigolds
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    I've seen some hot rodders do some stupid shit to!!!! Hell, in my younger years I might have been one of them. In the words of Forrest Gump, stupid is as stupid does!!!! We can't be worried about what might happen. These younger rodders do hope at some time to own older vehicles. I know because my step-son and his buddies talk about evolving to older cars all the time!!! This creates an opportunity for the older rodders to educate the younger ones and maybe they can migrate to the much older vehicles!!! Disagree with the decision if you want, but the industry and our hobby is going to grow as a result of this revelation!!!

     
  5. dragrcr50
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    I am a 48' model myself, went to the first nsra event in 74 been to many many of them. however the last few yrs i have been doing the good guys, the nsra stuff is just so bland, I will actually look forward to the mini nats in okc this yr to see something besides the same tired old cars and old guys. Id venture to say most of you guys are 80's model yourselves. simply put we change and our cars change , but we are still hot rodders. I said hot rodders , street rodders , I don't know what to call them any more... see ya there I hope....
     
  6. My street rod club has about 90 plus members and we are one of the original chartered nsra clubs. This week end at York Nats. there maybe only 3 members there, you 'd think nsra would want to know why. There computers can tell them the number of members who showed up for each show . They just don't care they try to hid the areas in exhibitors buildings with curtains so we don't see that exhibitors are dropping out because nsra are upping rental fees . We're only numbers to them, years ago they would talk to you to see if you had any grips or if we'll see you at another show , or how have you been since last they seen you, or do anything new to the rod this year. Now you have to go lookin for an official and if you find one they brush you off fast, their too busy. What gives?
     
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  7. DeuceDog
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    from Breese, IL

     
  8. MERC 55
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    I have a really nice 55 MERC, two years ago I bought a 38 CHEVY just for NSRA events. I guess now I can sell the CHEVY and not reneu with NSRA, its not the club I joined. Jack
     
  9. Shifty Shifterton
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    When it was founded they let 22 year old vehicles in the door.

    Bitch all you want about tradition, the NSRA is returning to it's roots.
     
  10. Bettlejuice
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    You pegged it pretty well there DD... I'm 27, and really have no interest in the NSRA or being a member. I have the "old and stodgy" feeling about organizations like that (and I do have a pre-49). They really do nothing to attract new, younger members, at least not that I can see. Now, I will be a HAMB Alliance member once I get around to sparin' $50, but that's because Ryan's done alot to make it an attractive option for everyone, and totally inclusive. Why would I want to be part of the NSRA, a club that has the stigma of the "gold chainer" type that ALWAYS look down on anyone younger, regardless of the quality of their automobile that really doesn't make you feel welcome (the local club is a NSRA club, and frankly, it's full of stuck up assholes, half of which have cars that aren't 1/2 as nice as mine). And yer right, I don't want no embroidered vinyl jacket (he says as he leans back in his desk chair with his Dickies work jacket hanging on the back) ;).
     
  11. bangngears
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    all my nsra t shirts will become shop towels.:D
     
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  12. AnimalAin
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    I am a life member of NSRA, having attended my first Street Rod Nationals in 1974, when I was only twenty-two.

    I am not convinced that this change is a good thing. Neither will I immediately react (some might say over-react) by calling the entire management of the organization money-hungry idiots who are deliberately trying to destroy our hobby.

    I'm sure that some of you won't be there, but I will probably find my way back to the Nats some time soon, and see how it works.

    For the record, I wish them well; there is evidence that without this organization, our hobby might have faded to insignificance by now, and I want to keep doing this stuff for a lot longer.
     
  13. The problem, as I see it, is once you venture beyond a certain year of car, you run the risk of a clash of era cultures. By that I certainly don't mean the age of the car owner, but more the mind-set, and I would encourage anyone to join the car hobby no matter what year car they have. But I don't think I would personally care for spending a weekend parked next to raised up '79 Ford 4x4 with a flashing strobe-light display and Snoop Dog blaring from a bed full of speakers that could drive Manuel Noriega from his palace.
    I have experienced this at local cruise nights that have a "no-year-limit", as I'm sure many of you have. And it is definately counter-productive to any rest and relaxation I had in mind.
     
  14. Shifty Shifterton
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    Are all late model owners like that?????? Or did you find the one obnoxious example and sterotype all the rest?

    For the record, the most obnoxious displays I've ever seen were ledsleds. Cordoned off with fake drive in speakers and doo wop music blaring and decorative sh*t poured on the ground around it that's tracking all over.
     
  15. HOLLYWOOD GRAHAM
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    You don't bring a baseball bat to play in a basketball game. Two different games, two different styles of cars.
     
  16. 40Standard
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    my 1st Street Rod Nats was 1972. I'll still continue to go to NSRA events but I would rather see the year capped at 1972 like Goodguys
     
  17. Shifty Shifterton
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    A real car guy loves em all. From the first car to the last car.

    You assume they're different games. To a true car guy it's not.
     
  18. Bettlejuice
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    Agreed, if it's something the owner's proud of and I'm talking to him, no matter how much I really don't like the car, I'll find something positive to comment on... Actually, most of the nicest guys I meet are the guys that have cars that people shit talk for one reason or another, and they'll pal around with me because I don't act like that (around here, car shows are like high school... You're either one of the popular kids or an outsider). I've never shit-talked a car at a car show in my whole life, if I have something negative to say, I'll keep it to myself and say it to a friend in private conversation. If you don't like it, don't look at it. If you feel the need to express how much you don't like it, don't be an ass about it, it is a shitty feeling to overhear someone talking bad about your car, I know this from experience :(.
     
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  19. HOLLYWOOD GRAHAM
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    Nobody is shittalking some other guys cars. i just want to be with the ones I love best. I have owned 35,46,50,51,52,53,56,57,60,63,67,70,73 chevs., 41 Graham, 28,34,48 Fords, 48 Linc.,77 Ply,58,61,68 VW, 58 Volvo,59 Sunbeam
    , most cars some trucks. I don't mind going to a Muslce car show or a ConCours D'Elegance or even a VW show but that is what I went to see not a mish mesh of different cars.
     
  20. Bettlejuice
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    Don't get me wrong, I wasn't talking about you (at all, nothin' personal!), I was really talking about the general atmosphere of alot of shows.
     
  21. I think the big point that seems to be missed by so many is this - the NSRA is the National STREET ROD Association. By definition that means 48 and earlier cars. PERIOD. There are plenty of events for later year cars, all years of cars, restoration only or whatever the hell suits your fancy. The point is that this is an organization for 48 and earlier and that is what people should expect out of it. The fact that some members no longer want to drive a roadster and want to instead take their more comfortable later car to an event is not the organization's problem. If they don't want to play by the rules, go elsewhere - there are plenty of places for them.

    I am always amazed by people that want to join an organization and them change it. When I was younger I belonged to a sailing organization mainly because they held Wednesday night "Beer Can Regattas", where the competition was secondary to the beer drinking. We had a lot of fun in our little sail boats. Well a bunch of guys saw how much fun we were having and joined and then decided that sailboats were too much work and they wanted the rules changed to include powerboats. We told them to hit the sea and start their own damn boat club! We existed because we liked sailing and a little partying and that was the reason to stay together. I didn't expect to bring my flatbottom Sanger out on Wednesday nights, that's what the little Lido 14 sail boat was for.

    Look I like all kinds of cars and while I own 2 48 and earlier cars I also have a 56 T Bird and a 63 Falcon Convertible. When there is an event for 48 and earlier, i don't take the T Bird and bitch that i can't get in, I take the earlier car or i go as a spectator. I don't expect anyone to change the rules for me and no one else should either.
    I think the NSRA has really pooped in the cake on this one.
     
  22. Shifty Shifterton
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    The only question missing in the Q&A is

    "I'm afraid of young people, yellow people, brown people, and black people. Will they be there? I don't want my vehicle scratched"
     
  23. Nick32vic
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    Im sad. The Louisville Nats was one of my favorites. I'll get over it.

    Ill just go see my east coast friends at the Jalopy Showdown.
    Ill just go see my southern friends at the Lonestar Round Up.
    Ill just go see my northern friends at Billetproof Michigan.
    Ill make my way out to the Grand National Roadster Show.
    Ill go to SEMA show to show my support for their ongoing efforts with laws and legislation.
    Ill continue to support the Hunnert Car Pileup, Rust Revival, HAMB Drags, and if i really need to see all pre 49 cars Ill visit the Frog Follies where they do a tremendous job of donating to charity.
    My options are plenty and this will free up a few weekends every year for me to go to better events.
     
  24. I wonder where the perception that this paranoia^^ is the reason for peoples disagreement with the change. It certainly isn't the case for me or the people I know. I gladly welcome anyone of any race, color, national origin, goofy looking clothes, back wards wearing hat or any other background that wants to sincerely talk about HOT RODS! when I'm at a HOT ROD event. As long as they show respect for the culture, I'm good with it. And if I'm at a Truck show (or Low Rider, Concours, Harley, etc.) I expect and give the same courtesy.
     
  25. And you know what? The NSRA can do whatever the Hell they want, they certainly don't need my permission, or yours. The difference is I always liked the uniqueness of the NATS where you could see 12,000+ 48 and earlier Street Rods. It won't be worth the trip to see Citations, Pacers, Hornets, and other cars diluting the number of rods.
     
  26. That was pretty much my side of the conversation with Bubba Bugg, when I talked to him last week.
     
  27. chopped
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    What makes you all think every one of these car type guys wants to be anywhere near the old stuff. The surest way to turn N.S.R.A. into what you seem to think it's going to become is to stop going. Or is this just the usual "we love to bitch" H.A.M.B.?
     
  28. nick_s
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    Wow, I am glad my dad got a lifetime membership in '71.... that 50 bux was worth it!!! I dont completely frown upon their decision, but when I think Street Rod Nats, i'm predisposed to think pre '49 and that s what i go to see. makes me happy when I go to the Rock N Race or any other show.

    One suggestion, sort of a throwback to the '60's.... When the cars come in, Pre-48 to the left and Post-48 to the right.

    PS- I wonder if the Douches at the gates will still check ever person for a button, like it's a border crossing?
     
  29. 32csr
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    I'm done. Going to Louisville this year only b/c registered and my overpriced hotel rooms are paid for. I'm in a well known club in Cincinnati that has been Pre 49 for 39 years.......of our 33 members, 20 of those are lifetime NSRA members........not for long.......stupid move NSRA.....stupid move....
     
  30. bigolds
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    When the NSRA set the cut off back then the newest cars were only 25 years old...and the defineition of street rod has never really been etched in stone. I will keep coming to events and hope that the "sky is falling" attitude doesn't send to many people packing!!! It seems to me that we are no longer car folks and becoming elitests!!!!
     
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