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O/T.. has anyone SEEN the movie called "STOKED" about GATOR?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Germ, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. Germ
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    Was it RULING?
    What did you think?
    was it a DOCUMENTERY on his LIFE???

    Any DETAILS??
    I guess it isn't showing in my AREA.. or at least not yet,,,

    Fill me in please...
    I have a GATOR story from when I was a kid, and story about CHRISTIAN HOSOI after he LOST all his MILLIONS, and BUMMED 20 bucks from MY HOT ROD MENTOR,, to BUY CRYSTAL METH...... Christian came in teh SHOP,,, I almost fell down cause it was HIM.... then he asked for the MONEY and he was STRUNG OUT,,, I couldn't believe he LOST his MONEY.....

    DISASTER RECORDS is FILMING a LIFE DOCUMENTERY on DUANE PETERS,,, that should BE KILLER, if they TELL the WHOLE STORY,,,,,,

    any INFO on the GATOR MOVIE,,,,?????
     
  2. Sam F.
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    the way i understand its about his skater life and the***** with the murder ,thats all ive heard ,is it playing at movies or on video?


    here's the website stoked

    looks like it just played over here a few days ago... [​IMG]

     
  3. fatassbuick
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    from Kentucky

    I was waiting for it to go to DVD since nothing like that ever gets played around here.
     
  4. Lefty
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    I saw it about 2 weeks ago in Dallas and thought it was very good. It was a documentary which really just presented the facts. The video footage was much better than in Dogtown-Zboys since the video era had broken by the 80's.

    A definite must see for skaters 30 and over.

    The new video "Chlorine" with Salba is also kick****.
     
  5. Vagrant
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    Thanks! I 'll hit the local art house theater this weekend. I was just floored when i saw it in the paper.

    Germ , when is the movie on Duane Peters comin out?

    For some sad reason I'm not surprised about the deal with Hosoi. Glad he's still around and all...but he seemed to be so much of a rock star back then...
     
  6. 67Imp.Wagon
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    Lefty brought that Chlorine DVD by the house and it was great.
    Its pretty much a documentary on pool rideing.After watching it I was real close to emptying my pool.
     
  7. james
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    Isn't Christian still stuck in a hAwaiin prison?
     
  8. I saw it, I liked it, it should give you a major hard-on as it features a lot of the people you like to name-drop. Liked the Jason Jessee parts.
     
  9. man, I have been waiting to see that. I missed it when it premiered here at Sundance. Looking foward to seeing that flick. Anyone remember the rumor that the girl in the Tom Petty video "freefalling was the ex girlfreind", never found out if it was true.
     
  10. praisethelowered
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    best skating documentary- "Fruit of the Vine"
    and check out Jocko's book "The Answer is Never"

    avoid D-town and Z-boys if you don't want to hear 100 times how cool they "used to be". . .
     
  11. RF
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    I'm spoiled...I got to see it "with" Jason Jesse. Except he booked out the back door before the lights came on so he could avoid the praise and flashbulbs! Excellent movie, especially the music is era-correct to the scenes rather than just background noise. And don't knock Dogtown...it don't matter how cool "they used to be"...they are the reason skateboarding is what it is today. Alva's a****, J-Boy's a doper, Biniak is Billy Idol...so what, they ruled.
     
  12. Johnny Ace
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    RF...Damn right they ruled....Dogtown and our own Tx Zorlac and P-Men skate dynasties were linked by soul to these guys....all down the line...still are,in my book.
    Nothing to dismiss lightly.
    Mythic times....when GIANTS walked the earth...before big fuqqin' pants...when guys ground CHUNKS out of entire cities
    by actually SKATING...not rubbing K-Y on their boards and playing slippity-slide so they could land on their boyfriend at the bottom of the stair rails....I loved Gator...he had guts....even though he still owes me cash....before the 80's died,we lost Phillips and Gator buried his girl out in the desert....I NEED to see this flic.
    I never liked Hosoi.......he was a rockstar....
    Craig Johnson,who I actually got re-united with at Pistons and Paint,was fearless....when I saw him again, I gained back 20 years.
    Dogtown will always RULE.
     
  13. BigJim394
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    Here's a review that ran in the local weekly free entertainment paper:

    STOKED: THE RISE AND FALL OF GATOR

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    His career was as meteoric as one of his gravity-defying skateboard rides: Mark "Gator" Rogowski was a bratty teen who mastered the outlaw sport in the 1980s, rode the crest of its first wave of popular success, and then crashed with spectacular brutality at the end, convicted of a vicious***** and murder and barely escaping the death penalty. Helen Stickler's absorbing documentary; consisting of talking-heads interviews (some of the locales of her subjects are more intriguing than what they say) with Rogowski's friends and colleagues and his ex-fiancée, plus excerpts from his promotional videos and home movies made during his rise and fall and a spooky but unforthcoming phone interview with Rogowski in prison; puts his case in a cultural and economic context that's meant to suggest that he was partly the victim of corporate commercialization of an outsider subculture. When skateboard and clothing companies offered Rogowski and others big bucks and rock-star fame for their endorsements, most didn't hesitate to cash in, and they were unprepared when their fans turned on them as sellouts. Neither could they all make the transition (as shown in embarrassing videos of Rogowski unable to negotiate a six-inch curb) from the "vert" or ramp skating to the new and more democratic "street style."


    Stickler's efforts to plumb Rogowski's personal depths are more perfunctory: passing comments about his broken family, his rage problem, his alcoholism, his search for identity, and his quest for religion all pale before his crime. Maybe, as he smirkingly claims in a video made at his height, he was just a jerk. (82 minutes)



    BY PETER KEOUGH in the Boston Phoenix 9/5/2003

     
  14. Johnny Ace
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    WTF??....Gator was a MONSTER street skater....I skated with him from dusk til dawn one balmy Houston night and he pulled off sh*t that you wouldn't believe....
    They should have gotten someone who actually knew something about Rogowski to see and write about the movie....
     
  15. havent seen it yet but

    it is gator and his ex in the tom petty "free fallin " video

    and it was his ex girlfriends' friend he killed . His ex was hiding from him in NYC and her friend came into town to visit and didnt know she was gone
     
  16. zonkola
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    from NorCal

  17. Yeah, Johhny Ace, Craig johnson was a ruler, he and John Gibson came in town to do a demo at My skate shop back in the day in El Paso, and they ruled it. I might even still have a photo of John G. pulling a bong rip at my friends house, way cool guys.. [​IMG]
     
  18. Yeah, check out Juice Magazine's web site,
    you can see RF with his*****on to the top like
    a cholo shirt, at the premier.
    and OG LowRider Pinapple.



     
  19. Johnny Ace
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    HOOLIGAN....I may or may not post an infamous foto of Tex Gibson passed out,butt nekkid, on a Dallas sofa ....pale-ass a glowin'...Those guys could ingest ANYTHING and still skate like pros....Craig would SLAM his big carcass down on the Clown Ramp and get up laughing like it was nuthin'....
     
  20. [ QUOTE ]

    Craig Johnson,who I actually got re-united with at Pistons and Paint,was fearless....when I saw him again, I gained back 20 years.


    [/ QUOTE ]

    I have a "El Loco Gringo" T-shirt I bought of Craig Johnsonn ages ago, is was his band, dunno if they still exist. Now if only he would kill his girlfriend I could make some money off of it on Ebay.
     
  21. RF
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    I am a Cholo...my real name is Roberto Fortez, holmes!
     
  22. Johnny Ace
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    Gringos like a party, like Joto Heat sez....
     
  23. nor cal nic
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    'WHO CARES' the d.p. video is out, saw it at the thrasher mag rumble a month ago. it was cool. brought back memories... d.p. and i didn't throw beer bottles at each other across the ramp, this time...
    nic
     
  24. Is it as good as "Skater Dater"? Haha!
    My first real skateboard was a Gator.
     
  25. nor cal nic
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Is it as good as "Skater Dater"? Haha!


    [/ QUOTE ] no, but better than GLEAMING THE CUBE!
    nic
     
  26. yeah,

    a cholo like Robbie Benson-------
    in that move that i don't remember the name but he played a cholo.......not stand and deliver(that guy's a philipino)

    havn't seen the gator flim yet but i wanna.

    i'm still happy to have seen the dogtown movie- that footage was the*****- what are you guys talking about! all that film was from craig stecyk and glen friedman- those guys are my heros.....

    holmes.....
     
  27. RF
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    Come on...Benson's as much a Vato as that red-headed Malakhi was in whatever movie that was where he didn't say a word, he was loaded on Angel Dust looking like a wannabe Mike Muir. What movie was that?
     
  28. RF, that would be COLORS.
    I see you more the Johnny Depp type cholo
    in the 21 Jump street episode when
    he went undercover as Calavera.
    All you need is a yellow pendleton.
     
  29. Plowboy
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    I remember watching unsolved mysteries back then when they were still trying to find out what happened to that chick. They showed a clip of the Tom Petty "free falling" video and she was sitting up the left side of the ramp when the "cameltoe girl" as I remember her, was gingerly rolling back and forth.

    I tried to be a skater punk back in the day, but living on an oil and chip road was not condusive to "skate madness". Therefore I remained a Babe Winkleman groupie and continued fishing.
     
  30. RF
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    Colors...Colors...I can hear Ice-T now. I remember Robert Duval in the barrio with the red-headed vato...and Sean Penn with a racoon-face Maria Conchita Blah Blah Blah.
     

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