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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by El Caballo, Dec 7, 2005.

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  1. December 7th IS a day to remember. Django, those were fantastic pics from your trip there. What a holy place.

    One of my best friends Dad, Red Hooper was on the USS Nevada that day. This was a helluva two fisted, hard working, hard playing, talented, wild Irishman. Had tatts and wore a earing back then.

    He never could or would fully explain what it was like that day. But, you could see it in his eyes.

    RIP all that gave that day.

    Joel
     
  2. jerry
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    My dad served in the pacific theater and uncles in the euopean theater. RIP to all of them.

    I wore presidential unit citation from Battan when I was in the army.

    Lest we ever forget the sacrifice of them all. Always remember Dec. 7 1941.


    jerry
     
  3. Artiki
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    from Brum...

    I don't wish to contradict the boss around here but I can't ignore them, and I teach kids every day at school not to either. If you ignore ignorance, it breeds.
    No disrespect to you intended by this post.
     
  4. Chopped50Ford
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    Are you kidding Dr. J? I'm deeply offended by your remark. It's as if our country was some Commie Nazi Ragime that oppressed its citizens.

    Men and women died for "True" reasons unknown but to enter the war. But it doesnt mean we disregard the sacrifice they gave to this country.

    The freedoms they fought for, which I believe dont really exist much today; should be enough for us to cheer and celebrate for them.

    Thier memories should not be erased or thier graves spit upon w/ disgust...but rather, exhonorated (sp) and praised for thier sacrifices. They didnt choose to die...especially for a "fruitless" cause made by the present Leaders.

    America was what it was..."The Land of the Free, and the Brave" and they proved it all over the globe. That's why the lines filled up at the recruitment offices all over, because they knew then our Great Freedom's were now at risk...and the Jap's/Germans pissed us off...

    My Grandfather was at Pearl during the attack. He worked for the Civil service for the USN and played in the Big Bands like those on the USS Arizona, and competed against them boys.

    Im glad he wasnt killed...if he was...I would have told you to go screw yourself w/ that comment. It's just not right.
     
  5. ChrisinPhilly
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    I would suggest that people read up on what happened on the Pacific front. A few books that really impressed me were "Last stand of the Tin Can sailors" "flags of our Fathers" and "With the old breed at Peleiu and Okinawa. What these poor kids (most were teenagers at the time) went through is unbelieveable. Truly the Greatest Generation !!!!
     
  6. breeder
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    theres nuttin fruitless about fighting terrorism.... you need to stop watching katie and matt.. talk to my buds that will be home next week from the sand box... that wasnt a year wasted in there lives....
     
  7. Dukeofbluz
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    Heres a pic of my Father, stationed in Japan. A true Hot Rodder at heart he got in trouble for driving his Jeep up and down the steps of Japanese sacred shrines.

    Heres to you dad! I miss you man!
     

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  8. Brad54
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    December 7th, 1941; The day the United States realized we can not simply sit idle and watch Evil have it's way in the world because "it's not our problem--it's happening to someone else, on the other side of the world. It's their problem; let them deal with it." If there is one thing that came from that terrible day, it was this: Even if you don't get involved, eventually, you'll be a target anyway.

    The men and women of that Greatest Generation understood what had to be done, and why it had to be done. And the entire country united in a way never seen before or since. We didn't attack Japan after Pearl Harbor, we attacked Germany--who hadn't done a thing to us. Odd, isn't it?

    60 years later, and there's no doubt what we did was right and honorable.
    I hope I'm still here 50 years from now to honor those who are doing what's right today; our leaders, and our soldiers. And I hope I'm here to eulogize those who died and that horrible September morning.

    It's true, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
    -Brad
     
  9. chromedRAT
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    ironic to discuss this on a hot rod board, as it was reading about pearl harbor when i was in the 2nd grade that got me into WWII, and being into WWII that helped to narrow down my taste in cars based on that general era. also what made me decide to go to school to teach history. there's a book written about the WWII vets from my county, has pictures of all those that didn't make it home. zanesville has been called a typical small town alot, but it wasn't until i looked at all 265 dead and where the died that i really agreed. seems like at least one guy from this county died in every major battle. two went down with the indianapolis. there's one fella though, that died at pearl, and his picture is typical of those of alot of pearl vets i have seen, standing between two huge palm trees, obviously posing for the folks back home that he'd never see again. it always strikes me, looking at it.

    i remember nearly every WWII date and it always makes me happy when others do the same. we've done great things and also a significant number of ****ed up things, but if there is a high point thus far, the WWII vets made it.

    and in the pacific theater, the horror is so great that i can't really imagine it, ****, the smells alone must have been beyond comprehension, let alone amphibious invasions where soldiers fought over their fallen buddies piled 3 or 4 ft deep.

    D-Days in the Pacific by Donald Miller blew my mind with an excellent, well researched and supported treatment of all major amphibious ops in the pacific.

    not really thrilled with japanese government policy of denial of atrocities and blaming the US for "starting the war," but i honestly hold nothing against anyone today. people are people. i have known several very cool japanese people and really get a kick of what they are doing with american cars and bikes.
     
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