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Customs Odyssey PC680 battery (for the F1) – what's your experience?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kevin Lee, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. SicSpeed
    Joined: Apr 23, 2014
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    from Idaho

    I have been using a PC680 metal case batt in a race car with a 358ci 12.5:1 comp for 3 years and have absolutely no problems. The lithium batteries need a special charger to avoid ruining the batt. from an overcharge. I'll be switching over to Antigravity brand for the cycles and when this pc fails because they have a better warranty and they are lighter. More expensive yes, but a PC680 is 15lbs and 520 cranking amps. Antigravity's YTX12-20 is 5lbs and delivers 600 cranking amps. The batt. for the track bike is 1lb9oz.
    Lithium batteries don't perform well in a vehicle that has systems (clocks, stereo memories, computer systems, theft alarms) running when parked unless you keep it on a low amp maintenance charger.
    The thing I like the most for the race car is it can sit for months and the batt. still has a full charge.
     
  2. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
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    Bad info, totally wrong as the Braille ( and the Odyssey PC680 ) are NOT Gel type batteries.
    They are AGM = Absorbed Gl*** Mat batteries, which are very different than Gel batteries.

    If you are going to post information, it helps to know what you have and post correct information.

    http://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/battery-articles/gel-vs-agm.html
     
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  3. Kevin Lee
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    Circling back around again to report the fuel line is sorted and I started & drove the truck up and down the driveway multiple times last night. The starter hit hard every time so, trusting the Odyssey so far.
     
  4. dirty old man
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    Blue One you are correct they are both AGM, my mistake, I've been a bit distracted the last few days over a total cluster **** going on in my backyard with some tree svc. people on a pair of 125' tall pines they are removing a scant 20-30 feet from my house, and I got my terminology wrong and I apologize, even though the end result is the same, you need a special type of charger for these special type(s) of batteries.
    As for the rest of your Oh So Holy comments, I doubt Ryan would be happy if I told you what you can do with them.
    \So I'll close by just saying that I looked at your profile, including your year of birth. Sonny boy, I was building hot rods when you were still ****ting yellow.
     
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  5. Blue One
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    Well Dave, admitting you were wrong was the first part, that's great.
    The problem with posting wrong information is that some guys will actually believe it and run with it.
    Fact is you do not need a "special" battery charger for these batteries. Any smart battery charger with the 2 amp trickle charge feature ( like a Battery Tender etc.) will top up and then kick out and top up as required to keep the charge.
    Your sonny boy and ****ping yellow comment is just so much BS.
    Those type of condescending comments you can keep to yourself.
    You are right, Ryan would not appreciate it, neither would anyone else.
    Larry
     
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  6. dirty old man
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    You mean being a "Welding Instructor" has given you immunity from any of your remarks being "condescending"? Sir, I beg to differ.
    And a Battery Tender is a bit more special than a simple 2 amp trickle charger.
     
  7. Kevin Lee
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    Hey Blue One, intentional or not you did come off a bit condensing in the first post. And D.O.M., you did as well with your reply.

    Me? I don't give a **** about your egos. I'm here to talk about batteries. Now you both sound like you have something to add to the conversation and you both got your shots in. So could you please just **** it up? I'd like to keep this thread going (if needed) with helpful information – not ********. Thanks.
     
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  8. Blue One
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    No problem Kevin. I get tired at times with the amount of "information" that gets posted and is in fact wrong.
    I wasn't intentionally being smug.
    I have contributed as best I could previously.
    Part of that is the battery charger issue.
    At no time did I say a simple 2 amp trickle charger was appropriate.
    I specified a smart battery charger which there are a number of on the market just like the Battery Tender.
    I like the Deka battery I have, it is a little larger than the PC680 and has more reserve and cranking capacity and is also the same as the Braille 3121.
     
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  9. dirty old man
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    Sorry Kevin, but the last couple of days have been a real cluster **** and I was already in a foul mood and just was quick to take offense, In my defense, as I said wrong type battery, but same solution as I suggested a "smart" charger also, the correction of terminology wasn't resented, just the rest of the comments, and they are still resented.
    I shall comment no further on this thread. Please don't lock or delete it.
     
  10. flthd31
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    Appreciate the followup. I'm thinking it's gonna work just fine. I'll chime in after I get mine going.

    Oh, and the dramatic diatribe between DOM and BO actually did add some useful info....thanks guys. I always use a tender on all my batteries and will be getting one for this PC680. Now I know what to look for.
     
  11. Kevin Lee
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    Thanks guys – now if there's anything to be pissed about right now it's auto correct.


    Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
     
  12. ct1932ford
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    I have been running a PC680MT in my Roadster for a couple of years and it has been perfect. I have it under the seat. See photo. I just purchased the same one for my coupe. In fact I made a mount up today to have it in stock location laying down. Will post photos of that when complete.
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  13. Jimmy2car
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    I've had mine for the last 4.5 years. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread and 7up.
    Mine is mounted under the rear seat in my 32 Tudor, similar to ct1932ford. It cranks my big flathead like there's no tomorrow. My charging system is via an alternator mounted on the banjo housing driven from the driveshaft. I wouldn't hesitate to get another.
    You've got some other problem, I think
     
  14. Kevin Lee
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    I agree there was another problem – possibly multiple problems. Bad wiring + the possibility of my clutch hitting the bellhousing during startup. (that's on a whole other thread and I have since worked it out)

    So the update is that this battery has been working flawlessly since May. There have been a few cold mornings and it doesn't hesitate. FWIW my charging system is bone stock – generator with an old style regulator. Convinced the heavy gauge wires and multiple grounds are key.
     
  15. I've had a PC680 in my 385 HP, ZZ-4 powered Boss Hoss bike for 6 years. Starts every time
     
  16. falcongeorge
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    I am doing a mechanical makeover on one of my vehicles, it has been a battery killer. Sits a lot, fair squeeze and lots of initial, hard to start from cold. Part of the make-over plan is to relocate the battery under the bed and clean up the wiring. It has killed a red-top and a new Costco so far (neither will accept a charge) I am going to try one of these, the small size will be a BIG plus, its pretty crowded underneath.
    Good thread, thanks for the info.
     
  17. Bam.inc
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    Falcongeorge... "sits a lot" ? Gotta get out & exercise them. Don't get mad,
    Just kidding around with ya, I've been guilty, too. Sometimes we're expecting too much from our cars that don't get some regular 'exercise'. Gas (especially ethanol)& batteries get rotten, & tires get flatspotted. So I guess getting out & drivin' at least weekly (as much as the lawnmower runs) would help a lot.
    I'm no electrical engineer, but we can't expect batteries that are rarely cycled & charged to "just fire up".
     
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  18. falcongeorge
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    I honestly don't need a vehicle that often, my kids school and the groceries are all within easy walking distance, and I need the exercise myself. It especially sits for extended stretches in the winter. Summer it gets evening exercise pretty regularly, and I usually take the kids to school in it in the spring and fall.
     

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