Hot Rods Official hot rod's of the dry lake's thread

Santa will need you to PM your address to me, and I'll get a high quality copy made. Thanks for starting the thread!

 

tfeverfred

Many Betes car has a hot Banger. Riley 4-port. Winfield carb and other cool stuff.
I'll post the old article from American Rodder. It has some pics and info.
They ran it on the lakes. Was more or less unbeaten on the street until the built V8's started to show up on the nightly meetings.


firingorder1

You are right. Rusetta allowed coupes, sedans and such to race in the 40's. SCTA did not consider this to be Hot Rods. Don't recal the actuall time but SCTA ran a test meet where coupes where allowed. They came around when they saw the speeds possible in these cars too.

Dig into Flat Out by Albert Drake. Tons of details on the pre 1950 lakes history.

sixcarb

That was a cool tank. Does it still have the 60 in it?
If so I'd love to see some pics.
I'm digging into V8-60's these days since I have one in a 27Tub survivor car I recently accuired.
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Look up this post guys, if you haven't seen it yet.
Traderjack is one the guys that gave us this wonderfull hobby and history to feast upon.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277723



Paul

 

maybe someone knows something about my car?
I've been trying to figure out its history since I bought it a couple years ago.

The doors have Los Angeles feb18th 1946 newspaper stuffed in them, the current dash is drilled for a timing tag and i found a russetta tag in the trunk all crumpled up that once hammered straight matched up, unfortunately it was eaten away with battery acid or something everywhere it was stamped, so nothing can be read. I'm not sure if its a tag from before or after russetta was actually organized, i know they originally ran around 1939?
the stock dash thats left underneath on the pass side has 2 holes that are close to the width of the reproduction muroc timing association tags, but not exact although i dont know if the reproductions are the same width as the originals?
the body is patched up pretty good in the back, i think it may have been rearended at one time?
the floor is held together with pieces of 1930-31 & 38 California license plates.
the grill and cowl are leaded in and smoothed out
and the windsheild posts were cut off and then rewelded along with a hole filled on the outside of each post and what appears like possibly some 1/4" holes filled on the top of the cowl. appears like it may have had a hallock windsheild WAY back when.
The current windsheild still has the gas ration A sticker in the corner
so if anyone has any info or thoughts i would really appreciate it
thanks
Zach

 

No the 60 was taken out in the early 60's when the car was going to get a rebuild, here is what it looks like today.

 

Sixcarb, that thing is incredible!

 

This is a really great thread,..... let's see if we can keep it going.

 

i cant get enough of this stuff!!!! keep it up boys.

my only tie to lakes racing was i used to know george bentley. he lived next door to my great grandmother in east la. right off the 5 frwy. he and i would talk once a week when i would go over there to mow the grass. when i knew him i did not know he was a racer. he was always working on something in his garage. i never saw the inside of his garage because his german shepard did not like me so i stayed on the other side of the fence. man i wish i could pick his brain now. i'd even settle for seeing what he had in his garage!!!! he had a few roadster bodies behind his garage but at the time i was more into my 57 chevy and didn't care about model a "crap". man, was i an idiot!!!!

 

George lived where his mother raised him a couple of blocks away from Cook's Machine Works on the 1300 blk of Fraser. George gave me a couple of things that I treasure.

One is a water decal of Earl Evans belly tanker advertising his speed equipment,a 1940's M. Leddington-Cook's Machine Works - Cyclone Products business card that contained quick ratio table on the back side that we used to put in our catalogs and lastly a Copper flat head gasket 49-53 that is on the wall next to the bathroom @ Cook's.

While there, the Sadd Teague & Bentley A-roadster was getting some engine work done. He was the owner of the car, Al drove it and Nick Sadd contributed financially back in the day B4 he passed on.

I do remember seeing other roadster parts. George said that the roadster had been wrecked @ some point and it had been halved. Car was willed to Al Teague and has since been sold to the guy who has the speed museum in Winnemucca NV. George could drink with the best of em, He used to bench race w/Jim,Paul and Eddie @ the shop.

I wish that I would have had the chance to bend Ol George's ear over the A-bone that I have that raced May 25,1947,ran 109mph,was #265b-So Cal Rdstr Club and was owned by Clem Waske=All confinrmed by SCTA Historian Jack Underwood and provided to me by fellow PRC member Eric Loe.

Miss Ol Geo!

 

Thanks for the cool thread!

 

I have a copy of that issue.

BR

 

i would love to go meet jack underwood someday. billy

 

I searched around on my discs the other day and found some stuff on Arnold Birner.
Forgot I had it.
Those guys where realy trying hard.

I hope this tread will come more alive after the Holiday. So much history knowledge out there.





Paul

 

Anyone have pics of Chuck Price's '32 now? & Ed "Axle" Stewart's '32?


Also anyone have pics of John Bean's A roadster which was later owned by Jack Tobin and ran a 2-port Riley & had a Hallock screen. It was later owned by Richard Campos.

 

I cant remember where I found this pic but it's one of my favorites, anyone know the story on this one?

 

Billy,

Jack's a HAMBer, he might have gotten your message. I don't know what his screen name is though. I sent you a PM. Check it out.

 

I'd like to see a bigger pic...

 

I thought I would post this one It was built by Art Garrick and featured in (If my memory is correct) May 1951 Hot Rod and had a Rex Burnett cutaway drawing. Art was a member of one of clubs that formed the SCTA. It is a Rajo T based engine. It is now at the Flying A garage in Winnemucca. I have some other photos I will try to get scanned.

 

Here are some photos I took of the Art Garrick modified at the Flying A Garage for those that are interested.

 

cool. any old pics of it at the lakes. billy

 

In the few emails I've traded with Chuck Hersom, he was kind enough to share a few of his dry lakes memories during his racing days.

From Chuck
"The other book is titled Ford: The dust and the glory- A racing history by Leo Levine. In 1968 I was browsing in a book store in Sacramento and picked it up and was surprised to see a picture taken at the first Bonneville 1948 meet of our belly tank and the ’34 ford flat bed farm truck we hauled it on. But it has only a small section on that era.

As a tidbit of interest - prior to leaving for the salt flats we rigged a small oxygen welding bottle with valve and regular under the seat of the belly tank with a copper line going to the intake manifold. We didn’t try using it until the last day and our last run because we didn’t know what might happen with pure oxygen going into the engine. Well as I got up to full speed and just before getting to the traps I opened up the oxygen valve and the tach picked up a couple hundred more rpm and I thought this is great - but then the engine blew and I had to be towed back. Blew the head gasket and burned a couple valves. Those were the days."

If any body has the photo he mentioned from the book, I'd love to see it. I've sent a follow up email today to keep in contact. I hope to gain more insight into his experiences to preserve and share them. I've also attached a picture taken from the July 16-17 1949 SCTA Time Trials program that posts the set up of the Hersom Bros. belly tanker(see Gaters section). Chuck and Gene Hersom grew up in Compton, CA on a big acre ranch.

Chris

 

This is my first roadster pickup, took it to El Mirage in 1947, this is , I think, the first bucket T with a small bed. Had a 12" bed behind the body that held the tank. SCTA made me run it as a lakester instead of a pickup because they had never seen a 12" pickup bed before.

that is I behind the wheel and my brother Hank standing by the car.

Yep, we drove it on the street that way!


traderjack

 

nice car!!! i did not know they had a pickup class. does anyone know all the classes back in say 49-50?

 

1950 Popular Mechanics story on Bonneville.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/06/02/hot-rod-derby-on-the-salt-flats/

 

WOW.............what a HOT ROD!

 

Traderjack
Cool T. Tell us more about it. Engine etc.



Here are the Hot Rod article on the Art Garrick Modified





Paul

 

I was lucky enough to meet Roy Siegner shortly before he passed away. He lived in Glendale after the war and was one of the original members of the Sidewinders. He gave me some of his trophys and timing tags along with these photos of his rear engine T roadster,rear engine 34 roadster,model A roadster that he drag raced and his brothers deuce roadster. I only wish that I had gotten to know him sooner,he was a great guy and had lots of stories about his adventures in dry lakes racing and the early days of drag racing in so-cal. I finally got a scanner so I can shre these photos. Enjoy

 

Some more photos

 

This is my first roadster pickup, took it to El Mirage in 1947, this is , I think, the first bucket T with a small bed. Had a 12" bed behind the body that held the tank. SCTA made me run it as a lakester instead of a pickup because they had never seen a 12" pickup bed before.

that is I behind the wheel and my brother Hank standing by the car.

Yep, we drove it on the street that way!


traderjack

That is neat history. Glad to have you posting this infol

 

A couple more that i had