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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by upspirate, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. upspirate
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    I have an NOS oil filter from the '80's , crosses to PH 13 Fram , PF 35 AC , PER40 Purolater . I can't remember what it fits ! :confused:

    I'm looking to change oil & filter on my 327 small block , spin -on type and wonder if this fits.

    Just pull the old one and check to make sure the threads and gasket match up?

    I feel dumb for even asking this:rolleyes:
     
  2. Yep, it'll work just fine.
     
  3. upspirate
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    Thanks ....it'll save me buying another one !
     
  4. tb33anda3rd
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    is it a 327 that was adapted to a spin on? i think the adapted motors use a different filter than a stock, from the factory spin on type. if i remember right. someone will correct me if i am wrong.
     
  5. upspirate
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    Easy little trick I've been doing for years. Didn't want the rust issue nor expense of chrome filter covers on my rods , so I give them a quick shot of paint before I install them. Yes alcohol is usually involved !;) 20160827_124622.jpg
     
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  6. upspirate
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    I don't know , I haven't driven it enough to change oil & filter ...... this is the first time. I'll check this out. Thanks
     
  7. uncle buck
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    The only 2 types of adapters I have seen will use either the filter you have (equivalent to Napa#1061) or a Napa #1515. The easy identify is the filter you have has the gasket all the way out to the outer edge , and the other one has the gasket about 3/8" inboard of the outer edge. Here is a comparison [​IMG]


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  8. pat59
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    And don't use the wrong one. I did once, filter spun right on but I never checked the gasket. Dumped 5 quarts right onto the street. Ya live and learn. :)
     
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  9. dan c
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    i had a '67 camaro/250 inch six that i used these on. more filter area and the same $.
     
  10. upspirate
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    Thanks for the photo Buck . I had bought this old filter back when I was running 350's in my rods, and also had an iron duke in a '27 T roadster
     
  11. squirrel
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    I wonder how old oil filters hold up to time? I think the only thing I'd be worried about, is the glue holding the filter material to the end caps.

    I'm curious because I have a couple 1970s vintage AC filters for a Chevy, and would like to put one on my old car, because it looks neat (and you can kind of see it, with the fender well headers, high nose, etc). I just wonder if I'm risking oiling issues...
     
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  12. upspirate
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    Never thought of that aspect Squirrel....can't be much worse than a J.C.Whitney toilet paper filter??!!! ;)
     
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  13. volvobrynk
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    I agree with above, you CAN use that filter, but I wouldn't!

    Right for you application, but wrong in most other senses!
     
  14. volvobrynk
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    The question ain't is it worse, the question should be; is it good enough for your engine!!
     
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  15. tb33anda3rd
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    i had/have a bunch of old oil filters and always wondered what the shelf life was.
    i did cut some open that "hinted" of being stored in a damp spot and there were rust stains on the paper element.
     
  16. Gman0046
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    Your probably better off using the old AC filters. They were USA made. The new AC are now made in China.

    gary
     
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  17. upspirate
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    Good news , the filter was the right one , and no leaks. There were 2 bolts into the block under (above) the filter , if I remember correctly , these held the adapter onto the block?? been a long time since I messed with this stuff , and even back then , I just spin the old one on & off.:(
     
  18. squirrel
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    There is a bolted on adapter no matter which type block it is. the difference is, on the early blocks with a spin on adapter, the filter gasket fits against the adapter. On the later blocks, the filter gasket fits against the block itself.
     
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  19. George
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    Yeah, counter guy gave me the wrong one once, maybe for a 305 Chevy instead of a 305 Buick, same results as yours!:(
     
  20. pat59
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    Yea I think the one I had used was for a pontiac. The gasket was further inside. :)
     

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