Technical Ok, Ford FE gurus let’s talk

Yeah, I totally understand that.

 

I'm too far away,in Miami Fla, except if your coming here anyway for fun vaca..,with your pick-up. = I have 2*> Ford 390's,one complete Thunderbird{ stock,both are 4 blr intakes with missing carb..,and one some one was rebuilding;short block got done*,and heads have new valve job ,but not on,other parts in box's= both for $500 as a pair. Yes they do turn over,been in side in garage for a few years,amoung many Y-blocks I have;also 4 sale,,,

Added update 3/22/2024=I sold both FE's,guy picked them up about a hour ago,,,,
Still have some Ford Y blocks n parts to sell. Plus most all parts to build a hot rod openwheel Huppamoble 1917 roadster with a 1953 Merc flathead< runs with tall shifter truck tran pick-up 4 speed on it.=I'm to old now to complete that...so time to make some one a good deal.

 

Dang Dana.....

 

Road Trip!

 

Root,I rebuilt my 390FE in 2007.I have FPA LONG TU BE HEADERS ON IT. I REPLACED THE STARTER IN 2017and will get it on the road in summer 2024 after I paint the roof!

 

Well @dana barlow, things are a little more difficult than I thought. I wish I was closer, I would own all that crap you have. Things around here have gotten silly. I was talking to Jeff Norwell this morning about it. Apparently, the stroker fad has made it to Oklahoma. Everyone thinks they have a gold mine.

 

Yes, prices for blocks are insane, be glad you don't need a 428 block.

 

So, I have found a 352 in a 69 F100 I can get for $150, up by @Boneyard51. My questions are "Can I go to a 390 Standard bore? Are there any differences in external parts, like oil pans, timing covers etcx?


I didn't even think the 352 was still being produced in 69. I thought by then, it was a 360? Another plus, looks like it was converted to run on propane, so it might be clean inside. Fingers crossed....

The only bad thing, is they want you to pull it. It's outside with no real provisions. Not sure if they have a tractor handy. I wonder why parts are missing? Getting ready to pull it? I don't care as long as it isn't cratered.

 

I'll bet that's a 360. But...It'll make a 390 with crank and piston swap. Having been on propane the heads may need a lot of work. Still a good core though.

 

If you buy it take the throttle linkage in case you want it for the kickdown mechanism.

 

352 was available at least through 67 in pickups. 360 came along later. Probably 68, from memory.

A 352 should clean up to a standard 390 bore and piston size. Just need to source a crank &rods (?).

 

I am just cautious about buying anything that could have been previously overhauled. The FE's like to stay as close to .030" oversize as possible. At least that is what I have been reading. I am buying aluminum heads and 445 stroker rotating assy, so basically, I need the block and rear sump oil pan.

 

Apart from the LPG kit that looks pretty unmessed with, can’t even see any exhaust gaskets and the fuel lines are still there.

 

Never forget there is a reason that something was parked. All of those old engines were wore out with high mileage but I agree with your statement that if it has already been rebuilt, you may be in trouble. About 5 years ago, I sold a running 360 for $50 to a friend for his winch truck. A year ago he said it was still sitting in the shop. I can't imagine he would sell it, though. Anytime we look for something 50 years old, it can be tough.

 

I'll double his money.....

 

I have run many engines on propane, and I can tell you , you will probably fine that the engine has very little ring wear. Propane is a complete dry fuel , with less power than gasoline. So you never get cylinder wall wash down. Like folks have mentioned, I bet it’s a 360! Let’s hope so, then you can have a 445! Where is this engine?Just wondering! I thought I knew of all FEs for sale around here! lol

Edit: Yes all the outside component's will inter change.

Bones

 

It's all about the logistics my friend. I am in the middle of building a shop and house, so my time is very limited. If this cat would pull it, I'd give him an extra hundred, just for his time.

 

Sapulpa

 

Somebody really wanted the oil filter.
Locating the accessory brackets and pullies may be a major pain.

 

I thought the 352 was done after 67, could be wrong. I know the 360 was available in 68. I seem to remember that a lot of the blocks had a 352 cast in the block, even if they were not a 352. Around here a lot of the U-pull-its have Mexicans hanging around who will help folks out, for a price. you might check on something like that. Good Luck.

 

It's on the inner fender. I think they were getting ready to pull it and lost interest. I agree the brackets may be an issue, but I probably won't use most of them anyway. They never seem to work out for me anyway.

I have a fellow hamb buddy that is looking in his super secret squirrel stash to see what he may have.

 

There are accessory drive parts and kits available, that engine does turn over, right?

 

The 352 was done in '67. It disappeared in cars altogether, and the 360 became a truck-only motor for '68. Ford didn't have a 'mid-sized' motor for cars until the following year when the 351W showed up.

The early ('58-62?) non-thinwall-cast 352s could take a large overbore with credible reports of them being bored all the way out to the 406/428 bore size (4.13"), the later '63-67 motors were limited to .040" over for the most part. The one fly in the ointment is these early motors weren't easily installed in some of the later cars/truck as they lacked one or two motor mount bosses on the block that Ford added later for fitting into the trucks and Mustangs/Fairlanes. If you're doing a swap with one, just use the early mounts. There is also a slight difference between the generator and alternator blocks, but a kit is available to address that (along with repo alt brackets). OEM water pump pulleys are tough to find for some reason, but aftermarket versions are available here too.

 

Who knows. I haven't contacted the guy yet. I hate to bother people if I am not ready to move on stuff. My calendar is full right now, so no tire kicking for me.

 

I just live vicariously through @Jeff Norwell.

 

Great fine , buy and build it . FE = Fun Engine

 

Thought of you today Root. Saw a 360FE original bore block on Marketplace for $150 not far from here. Encouraging that non exorbitant priced blocks are out there. This one is listed as a 360/390 block out of a 74 F100. I'm not up on 360s. Wha??? Had to check his info, from FYIFord.com

The 390-based blocks, which have an original bore diameter of 4.050 inches, are by far the most plentiful. These were in production from the late 1950s through the middle 1970s, with the majority being used in large passenger cars and pickup trucks. The common 360 engine also utilized the 390 block, with no difference in features or markings

Also found this elsewhere - The Ford 360 Truck engine was introduced in 1968 as the latest FE, or Ford-Edsel, V8 engine to power Ford trucks ... the 360 was used almost exclusively in the Ford Truck F-Series models;