Guys, I am getting things lined up to paint this truck of mine. I am going for that "old skool" look. You know, black primer, etc........ Anyway, went to the store yesterday and requested black primer from Dupont. No cando fromt he sales guy. I said, can I tint a regular, plain primer ? Like "Velva Seal" ? Is this possible ? Can grey or white primer be tinted to make black ? The bonehead behind the counter was no help.
Yes, it can be tinted. Keep a record of the mix. Also, DuPont makes great stuff but it is one of the most expensive brands out there. Look around in your area, I'm sure MD has another paint store or two. If all you're going to do is shoot some black primer you can probably save some bucks and find someone more helpful. Most of the paint suppliers have compatibility charts, so some mixing of brands is ok as long as you use compatible systems. Not sure your level of experience (guessing you have not done before), but if this is a DIY project be sure to follow the directions. Shooting the primer is the fun part, but prepping the surface is more important if you are trying to do a good job. Also, many paint systems can fry your lungs and brain and contain known carcinogens- so don't be a 'bonehead' and paint in a closed room without respiratory equipment. Oh, BTW- make sure that your wife's/neighbor's/friend's cars are upwind or see the thread about clay bars. Not that I would be speaking from experience...
Maybe just use this paint. I have not used it but it sounds ok. http://www.kustomshop.com/scripts/depot.exe?pgm=ksflatz.bbx Hot Rod Flatz also contains UV inhibitors to protect your finish from fading and chalking like traditional primers. Jdee
also see if they sell the Nason line, which is DuPont's "cheap" brand. Maybe they have a different color selection, which might help. Pricing is much more reasonable. I suggest you use a good primer, I did my 55 with tinted DuPont Uro in 1997, it's chalking a bit since it had to sit outside for the past year or so, but still it's in decent shape.
how about putting a sealer on under that primer? might stop the moisture from getting at the metal surface underneath, mine is rusting under the primer so I am sealing it then I'm going to reprime over that cause my bodywork sucks and its showing all sorts of blemishes I couldn't see in primer
Go here http://southernpolyurethanes.com/homepage.htm Great products and people. They have black epoxy. morebel
hmmm...haven't seen any rust on my 55, it does see a bit of rain (such as last night, and days of it on drives back east, etc). That's why I suggested a good primer, Uro seems to be much better than the other primers I've used--the Prime-n-seal that I put on one of my pickups over laquer primer is just about gone, lots of rust showing thru.
the crap I sprayed on my truck was spray cans from walmart I went and got some Primer to put under the sealer, they are made by U-Tech that has to be sprayed on but its a bit to shiney so I was going to prime over it grey again, I got the sealer tinted light blue and it don't appeal to me
O.K. if ya want to go really cheep.... and who doesn't? go to your local John Deere lawn mower dealer and pick up a can of Blitz Black. less than 25 bucks a gal. also sold in buzz bombs. Looks just about right.. But with all paint BE CAREFUL, follow directions. Good luck
You might want to consider flattened black paint. It will probably be more durable and last longer than primer, probably look a little better too.
Remember that primer was meant to be painted over. It is porous and your car will still rust through the primer eventually. You might want to use regular paint with flatener over primer.
Go to "smartshoppersinc". They have Kirker black epoxy. It will fix you right up. It only comes in gallons but it costs about what PPG is for a quart. They have been good people to do business with. The other option is a flat black urethane. You can buy the Kirker urethane and add flattner for not much money. Only shoot it if you have a forced air respirator. That goes for all urethanes. That stuff is deadly.
i like a paint called polane, flat black industrial coating, tough as nails, and no fading. primers like the DP's arent meant for a final coat, so they fade fast. i am not sure who makes the polane stuff, but i am sure there are others similar, i remember that the can described it as ndustrial coating" and it was not available in CA.
Guys, thanks for the replies again. I think I will prime in black and shoot flat black paint over that. thanks for the education. jase
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